Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:09:40 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h06H9b6C013379 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:09:38 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h06H2uEV021662; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:02:56 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2B5A6.65FBE200" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h064ACbQ008642; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:56:26 +0100 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5450 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:56:26 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h06GuQTk012110 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:56:26 +0100 Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (root@gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h06H2qEV021638 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:02:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@gwyn [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id h06H2qbg012747 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:02:52 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with UUCP id h06H2qjM012745 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:02:52 +0100 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.oneiros.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22170 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:04:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <15897.10031.19948.331055@cs.anu.edu.au> <20030106130656259998.GyazMail.jbezos@wanadoo.es> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 17:09:40.0441 (UTC) FILETIME=[663F2C90:01C2B5A6] mail-followup-to: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: -3 () IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Proposed change of policy Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:04:17 +0100 Message-ID: A<20030106150417.GA22050@lucien.kn-bremen.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Proposed change of policy Thread-Index: AcK1pmZinnRqPKUDTICxZaU7fHKP2A== From: "Martin Schroeder" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4398 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B5A6.65FBE200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003-01-06 13:35:43 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Whether there will be a time when Omega is the engine of choice for > LaTeX3 or LaTeX4, will remain to be seen. But e-TeX is here _now_ > and LaTeX development needs to commence _now_. Is it really here _now_? Yes, web2c has it. But what about the non-web2c implementations (BaKoMa?) and the commercial distributors? None of the commercials seem to offer eTeX. Do you propose to make LaTeX eTeX-aware (i.e. use it's features when running eTeX and program without them in TeX [which would double the developement and maintenance]) or should it focus exclusively on eTeX? Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2003/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B5A6.65FBE200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Proposed change of policy

On 2003-01-06 13:35:43 +0100, David Kastrup = wrote:
> Whether there will be a time when Omega is the = engine of choice for
> LaTeX3 or LaTeX4, will remain to be seen.  = But e-TeX is here _now_
> and LaTeX development needs to commence = _now_.

Is it really here _now_? Yes, web2c has it. But what = about the
non-web2c implementations (BaKoMa?) and the = commercial
distributors? None of the commercials seem to offer = eTeX.

Do you propose to make LaTeX eTeX-aware (i.e. use it's = features
when running eTeX and program without them in TeX = [which would
double the developement and maintenance]) or should = it focus
exclusively on eTeX?

Best regards
    Martin
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