Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:14:37 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h04DEY6C006918 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:14:35 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h04D9LEV000529; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:09:22 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2B3F3.3B1D5C80" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h04D00Tq001618; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:01:49 +0100 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5066 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:01:49 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h04CpnTk001562 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:51:49 +0100 Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h04CwBwO024550 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:58:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18UnsR-00037f-01; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:58:11 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (520018396234-0001@[62.226.12.135]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 18UnsE-0bSE1QC; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:57:58 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h04CvuqP018923 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:57:56 +0100 Received: (from dak@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h04CvtiA018919; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:57:55 +0100 Lines: 32 Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2003 13:14:37.0360 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B544B00:01C2B3F3] X-Sender: 520018396234-0001@t-dialin.net X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 () SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Proposed change of policy Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:57:55 +0100 Message-ID: A X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Proposed change of policy Thread-Index: AcKz8zuAI/M8xOZbQMaY/T7dO3DYvA== From: "David Kastrup" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4388 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B3F3.3B1D5C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since quite a few programming feats and list juggling exercises (like \savingdiscards) require the use of eTeX, and since running out of registers and the like is a rather frequent occurence, I would propose that the LaTeX project make the following change to policy starting with the next release: The format/executable combination that distribution vendors are to use for the executables named `latex' and `pdflatex' is to be eTeX, respectively PDFeTeX. For those that want to test out compatibility with older versions, the names olatex and pdfolatex will be available, but it is strongly urged that distributions will usually not generate those formats by default since they will just be dead weight. elatex and pdfelatex should usually just be links or other appropriate aliases to latex and pdflatex. The naming of the TeX executables themselves (virtex, initex) is not the business of the LaTeX project. Neither is that of the plain TeX executables. While consistency would probably make it convenient if this scheme was also followed in that areas, this might provide confusion for those wanting to work from the TeXbook, and I am not entirely clear about how Knuth's wishes would apply to the naming of the _executables_ (as opposed to the banners and documentation). But this fuzziness does not concern the name of the "latex" executable, and thus I would urge the LaTeX project to start deprecating the use of a TeX version that has shown itself to come short for the typesetting problems centering around LaTeX. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B3F3.3B1D5C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Proposed change of policy

Since quite a few programming feats and list juggling = exercises (like
\savingdiscards) require the use of eTeX, and since = running out of
registers and the like is a rather frequent = occurence, I would
propose that the LaTeX project make the following = change to policy
starting with the next release:

The format/executable combination that distribution = vendors are to use
for the executables named `latex' and `pdflatex' is = to be eTeX,
respectively PDFeTeX.  For those that want to = test out compatibility
with older versions, the names olatex and pdfolatex = will be available,
but it is strongly urged that distributions will = usually not generate
those formats by default since they will just be dead = weight.

elatex and pdfelatex should usually just be links or = other appropriate
aliases to latex and pdflatex.

The naming of the TeX executables themselves (virtex, = initex) is not
the business of the LaTeX project.  Neither is = that of the plain TeX
executables.  While consistency would probably = make it convenient if
this scheme was also followed in that areas, this = might provide
confusion for those wanting to work from the TeXbook, = and I am not
entirely clear about how Knuth's wishes would apply = to the naming of
the _executables_ (as opposed to the banners and = documentation).

But this fuzziness does not concern the name of the = "latex"
executable, and thus I would urge the LaTeX project = to start
deprecating the use of a TeX version that has shown = itself to come
short for the typesetting problems centering around = LaTeX.

--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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