Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:35:30 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6JCZ9Wi031459 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:35:10 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6JCIfT8007263; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:18:41 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C22F20.C461D500" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6J9Gl29024770; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:19:34 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4656 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:19:34 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6JCJYuV026365 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:19:34 +0200 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id g6JCIaWK018824 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:18:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from somewhere by salmon.maths.tcd.ie via UUCP id ; 19 Jul 2002 13:18:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by alfred.murphy.ie (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6JCB5r09894 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:11:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: <15671.59093.569797.181271@istrati.mittelbach-online.de>; from frank.mittelbach@LATEX-PROJECT.ORG on Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 12:15:49PM +0200 References: <15671.59093.569797.181271@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2002 12:35:30.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[C495DD50:01C22F20] User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Question(s) for clarifications with respect to the LPPL discussion Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:11:05 +0100 Message-ID: A<20020719131105.C9871@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Question(s) for clarifications with respect to the LPPL discussion Thread-Index: AcIvIMTMfKSqni4PRm+eSKdCq9JCFQ== From: "Timothy Murphy" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4331 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22F20.C461D500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Frank Mittelbach wrote: > c) a set of mail quotes which i consider important for me decide = whether to > carry on with this or stop (and rather get some sleep again) You seem to me to have been quite remarkably courteous, rational and = patient in all your postings. If anyone in the world could bridge what seems to me an unbridgeable gap it must be you. But David Carlisle raised one point which you don't seem to have taken = into account. He suggested (if I understood him correctly) that modifying the LaTeX licence to make it "Debian-free" would in fact adversely affect publishers and others presently using = LaTeX. If that is valid, it would sem to me to be a conclusive = "counter-example" which would mean one would hardly need to go into the details of the purported proof ... -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22F20.C461D500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Question(s) for clarifications with respect to the LPPL = discussion

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Frank = Mittelbach wrote:

>  c) a set of mail quotes which i consider = important for me decide whether to
>     carry on with this or = stop (and rather get some sleep again)

You seem to me to have been quite remarkably = courteous, rational and patient
in all your postings.
If anyone in the world could bridge what seems to me = an unbridgeable gap
it must be you.

But David Carlisle raised one point which you don't = seem to have taken into account.
He suggested (if I understood him correctly)
that modifying the LaTeX licence to make it = "Debian-free"
would in fact adversely affect publishers and others = presently using LaTeX.

If that is valid, it would sem to me to be a = conclusive "counter-example"
which would mean one would hardly need to go into the = details
of the purported proof ...


--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: 086-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, = Dublin 2, Ireland

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