Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:27:33 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6H8RAWi022928 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:27:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C22D6B.CC2C4880" Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6H83eWK016925; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:03:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6GM04x8006287; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:04:24 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7614 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:04:24 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6H84OrU008363 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:04:24 +0200 Received: from smtp.wanadoo.es ([62.37.236.142]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6H83MT8005019 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:03:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [62.36.68.102] (62-36-68-102.dialup.uni2.es [62.36.68.102]) by smtp.wanadoo.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6H82N011468 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:02:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <15668.20088.889861.816560@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2002 08:27:33.0767 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCA15170:01C22D6B] User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: forwarded message from Branden Robinson Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:04:07 +0100 Message-ID: A X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: forwarded message from Branden Robinson Thread-Index: AcIta8zVPJ+IQnowQSudFFKCqA29mw== From: "Javier Bezos" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4315 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22D6B.CC2C4880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> if you manage to do that I would have no qualms to change to = different system >> or license, but not if that means the user has to read through = potentially >> thousand of source files to find a file that makes his document work >> differently on his site than on others. >> > I'm sure there are lots of ways. One possibility that springs to mind = that > would not run afoul of the DFSG would be to require the existence of a = "flag > file" in modified distributions of LaTeX. The LaTeX engine could look = for > this file at some convenience stage in its execution and spew a = warning to > standard output or standard error[2]. I'm not a very sophisticated = TeX user, > but I'm in the habit of reading the warnings it gives me. I've = learned to > ignore overfull and underfull hboxes, but maybe real TeXperts have = such > self-confidence that they ignore everything. :) In any event, it's = the > user's responsibility to read the output the program gives him. > [Note. Instead of sendind this message to the Debian list, I going to = send it to this list only. Reuse the argument if you want.] If I've understood correctly, this is a complete nonsense. If I get a document by "John Smith", how can I see if _his_ system has a flag file? = I can only access my own flag file but I'm supposed to know I'm changed my distribution... Javier ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22D6B.CC2C4880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: forwarded message from Branden Robinson

>> if you manage to do that I would have no = qualms to change to different system
>> or license, but not if that means the user = has to read through potentially
>> thousand of source files to find a file that = makes his document work
>> differently on his site than on = others.
>>
> I'm sure there are lots of ways.  One = possibility that springs to mind that
> would not run afoul of the DFSG would be to = require the existence of a "flag
> file" in modified distributions of = LaTeX.  The LaTeX engine could look for
> this file at some convenience stage in its = execution and spew a warning to
> standard output or standard error[2].  I'm = not a very sophisticated TeX user,
> but I'm in the habit of reading the warnings it = gives me.  I've learned to
> ignore overfull and underfull hboxes, but maybe = real TeXperts have such
> self-confidence that they ignore = everything.  :)  In any event, it's the
> user's responsibility to read the output the = program gives him.
>
[Note. Instead of sendind this message to the Debian = list, I going to send
it to this list only. Reuse the argument if you = want.]

If I've understood correctly, this is a complete = nonsense. If I get a
document by "John Smith", how can I see if = _his_ system has a flag file? I
can only access my own flag file but I'm supposed to = know I'm changed my
distribution...

Javier

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