Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:39:50 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6GMdQWi021664 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:39:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6GMQTWK018974; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:26:29 +0200 (MET DST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C22D19.B1C97F00" Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6GM04se006287; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:27:31 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7358 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:27:31 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6GMRVrU006521 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:27:31 +0200 Received: from bilbo.localnet (root@pcp742276pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net [68.49.144.202]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6GMQST8025764 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:26:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from bilbo.localnet (boris@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bilbo.localnet (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id g6GMQMEC030091 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:26:22 -0400 Received: (from boris@localhost) by bilbo.localnet (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) id g6GMQLXV030087; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:26:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from David Carlisle on Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:59:13 +0100) References: Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2002 22:39:54.0634 (UTC) FILETIME=[B48C96A0:01C22D19] X-Authentication-Warning: bilbo.localnet: boris set sender to borisv@lk.net using -f X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:26:21 +0100 Message-ID: A<200207162226.g6GMQLXV030087@bilbo.localnet> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Index: AcItGbSmZ45sOZ9tS6mFPrzVZi1MMg== From: "Boris Veytsman" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4308 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22D19.B1C97F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:59:13 +0100 > From: David Carlisle > > if that were the case you would presumably remove TeX and the TeX > fonts from Debian as well. In that case the licence on LaTeX would > be moot as without TeX you can't use LaTeX whatever the licence. > Then they obviously should remove texinfo and all FSF info system as well, since it is TeX-based. A sad situation of ignorance: Debian people do not realize that they ALREADY use TeX with its LPPL-like reservation of the name TeX. They use it in such a way that divorcing from TeX is not posssible. -- Good luck -Boris The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22D19.B1C97F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> = Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 = 22:59:13 +0100
> From: David Carlisle = <davidc@DCARLISLE.DEMON.CO.UK>

>
> if that were the case you would presumably = remove TeX and the TeX
> fonts from Debian as well. In that case = the licence on LaTeX would
> be moot as without TeX you can't use LaTeX = whatever the licence.
>

Then they obviously should remove texinfo and all FSF = info system as
well, since it is TeX-based.

A sad situation of ignorance: Debian people do not = realize that they
ALREADY use TeX with its LPPL-like reservation of the = name TeX. They
use it in such a way that divorcing from TeX is not = posssible.

--
Good luck

-Boris

The real trouble with reality is that there's no = background music.

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