Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:43:11 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6BCgdWi004481 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:42:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C228D8.83DAD980" Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6BCQmT8015021; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:26:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6ANGRBB031196; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:28:04 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4661 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:28:04 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6BCS1rU003730 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:28:01 +0200 Received: from smtp.wanadoo.es ([62.37.236.142]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6BCQiWK002709 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:26:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [62.37.82.106] (62-37-82-106.dialup.uni2.es [62.37.82.106]) by smtp.wanadoo.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6BCPk030606 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:25:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 12:43:11.0336 (UTC) FILETIME=[840E1E80:01C228D8] User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:27:26 +0100 Message-ID: A X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org Thread-Index: AcIo2IQuFH/ewg3HTw23/deOq0yxDw== From: "Javier Bezos" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4281 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C228D8.83DAD980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robin, > i think you're missing javier's point: he was comparing "modifying > latex" (easy) to "modifying python-the-executable", which (i would > assume) _does_ require some kind of programming experience, since > little of it will be written in python itself... Thanks... > i don't believe the point is particularly strong, Nor do I, but then one could compare how many people is trying to change the TeX executable (a score), and how many people is trying to create their own class (which is a FAQ). If we say "Hey!, guys, you can modify freely the book class" the question about how to create a class won't be a FAQ any longer... because people will modify book directly. This is the meaning of my "every user is potentially a developer" because in LaTeX the concepts of "user" and "developer" are not so clearly separated as they could be in Linux, Python or PageMaker (in fact, many LaTeX users are programming without being conscious of it and without being actual programmers). Javier ------_=_NextPart_001_01C228D8.83DAD980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org

Robin,

> i think you're missing javier's point: he was = comparing "modifying
> latex" (easy) to "modifying = python-the-executable", which (i would
> assume) _does_ require some kind of programming = experience, since
> little of it will be written in python = itself...

Thanks...

> i don't believe the point is particularly = strong,

Nor do I, but then one could compare how many = people
is trying to change the TeX executable (a score), and = how
many people is trying to create their own class = (which is
a FAQ). If we say "Hey!, guys, you can modify = freely the
book class" the question about how to create a = class
won't be a FAQ any longer... because people will = modify
book directly. This is the meaning of my "every = user is
potentially a developer" because in LaTeX the = concepts of
"user" and "developer" are not so = clearly separated as
they could be in Linux, Python or PageMaker (in = fact,
many LaTeX users are programming without being = conscious
of it and without being actual programmers).

Javier

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