Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:59:26 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6BAwVWi004126 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:58:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C228CA.05773B00" Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6BAhJWK005932; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:43:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6ANGR6v031196; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:44:35 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4477 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:44:35 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6BAiZxD002321 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:44:35 +0200 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (IDENT:4YXM7lmV3tPFKC/9euES6ZkcJuOcwuhy@mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6BAhHWK005906 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:43:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 17SbPn-0006Xa-00 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:43:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:20:25 BST." <20020711112025.E2564@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 10:59:29.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[07D29020:01C228CA] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: A X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org Thread-Index: AcIoygfrEeW2IRGwRVC1ZpGz0BwyKQ== From: "Robin Fairbairns" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4276 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C228CA.05773B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable timothy murphy wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 10:51:11AM +0200, Javier Bezos wrote: > > Python can be modified only if you know C, but > > LaTeX can be modified simply if you know LaTeX (and maybe TeX). > > This is a truly bizarre comparison. > > First of all, the number of people who know C > is an order of magnitude large than those who know TeX/LaTeX . > > Secondly, it is in fact easy to fiddle with Python files > without knowing any Python, let alone C. > I'm on a mailman-user list, > and people seem to spend their entire lives doing this. i think you're missing javier's point: he was comparing "modifying latex" (easy) to "modifying python-the-executable", which (i would assume) _does_ require some kind of programming experience, since little of it will be written in python itself... i don't believe the point is particularly strong, but it's stronger than you seem to think. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C228CA.05773B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org

timothy murphy wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 10:51:11AM +0200, Javier = Bezos wrote:
> > Python can be modified only if you know C, = but
> > LaTeX can be modified simply if you know = LaTeX (and maybe TeX).
>
> This is a truly bizarre comparison.
>
> First of all, the number of people who know = C
> is an order of magnitude large than those who = know TeX/LaTeX .
>
> Secondly, it is in fact easy to fiddle with = Python files
> without knowing any Python, let alone C.
> I'm on a mailman-user list,
> and people seem to spend their entire lives = doing this.

i think you're missing javier's point: he was = comparing "modifying
latex" (easy) to "modifying = python-the-executable", which (i would
assume) _does_ require some kind of programming = experience, since
little of it will be written in python = itself...

i don't believe the point is particularly strong, but = it's stronger
than you seem to think.

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