Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:07:48 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6B97GWi003838 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:07:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C228BA.6D258A00" Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6B8qJT8004181; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:52:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6ANGR3F031196; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:52:29 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4260 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:52:28 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g6B8puxD001074 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:51:56 +0200 Received: from smtp.wanadoo.es ([62.37.236.142]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g6B8ocT8003852 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:50:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [62.37.82.143] (62-37-82-143.dialup.uni2.es [62.37.82.143]) by smtp.wanadoo.es (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6B8nf020818 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:49:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <15660.38310.276619.162527@istrati.mittelbach-online.de> Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2002 09:07:48.0473 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D6DB690:01C228BA] User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:51:11 +0100 Message-ID: A X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org Thread-Index: AcIoum2m9WMysNZIR5arbpeQvKpfXQ== From: "Javier Bezos" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4273 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C228BA.6D258A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > fact is that latex software can, has > successfully done so (via LPPL) and through this process has resolved = a very > difficult situation with a lot of incompatibilities within the = language > definition. And this is the point which these people don't seem to realize: **every LaTeX user is potentially a developer**. Unlike, say, Python, people have free access to the LaTeX kernel and can modify it freely **and easily** without compilers or any other "barrier" -- Python can be modified only if you know C, but LaTeX can be modified simply if you know LaTeX (and maybe TeX). More importantly, most users are not concerned at all with standarization or licenses and what they want is a system whose behaviour is both predictable and "modifiable" (and even if illegal, many people is modifying the packages [as developers] because that's the simplest way to make a little change [as users]; if that's made legal, I don't know what could happen). Javier ------_=_NextPart_001_01C228BA.6D258A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LPPL under review at savannah.gnu.org

> fact is that latex software can, has
> successfully done so (via LPPL) and through this = process has resolved a very
> difficult situation with a lot of = incompatibilities within the language
> definition.

And this is the point which these people don't seem to = realize:
**every LaTeX user is potentially a developer**. = Unlike, say,
Python, people have free access to the LaTeX kernel = and can
modify it freely **and easily** without compilers or = any other
"barrier" -- Python can be modified only if = you know C, but
LaTeX can be modified simply if you know LaTeX (and = maybe TeX).
More importantly, most users are not concerned at all = with
standarization or licenses and what they want is a = system
whose behaviour is both predictable and = "modifiable"
(and even if illegal, many people is modifying the = packages
[as developers] because that's the simplest way to = make a
little change [as users]; if that's made legal, I = don't know
what could happen).

Javier

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