Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([62.225.9.49]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:02:09 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5LK1bxC019214 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:01:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2195E.8643B680" Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5LJtVF4027792; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:55:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g5L0jqmG013772; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:56:10 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3006 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:56:09 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id g5LJk9aE018426 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:46:09 +0200 Received: from mail.uark.edu (mail.uark.edu [130.184.5.107]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5LJi07f009669 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:44:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mathdancer.uark.edu ([130.184.55.45]) by mail.uark.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GY2MTA03.J2P for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:43:58 -0500 Return-Path: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2002 20:02:10.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[86FB1FA0:01C2195E] X-Sender: luecking@mail.uark.edu X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Page geometry in LaTeX Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: A<3.0.6.32.20020621144417.007b3100@mail.uark.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Page geometry in LaTeX Thread-Index: AcIZXocTtywVI6s8S3uNgZ6EJMIb4Q== From: "Daniel Luecking" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4203 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2195E.8643B680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Below is a copy of a ortion of a message I sent to the comp.text.tex newsgroup. Someone there, whose opinion I respect, suggested it would be good (and more likely to stir some discussion and action) to send it to the latex-l list. Some background (with which you are all perhaps familiar): a very (very, very) frequently asked question on c.t.t is how to get some custom page layout, or how to get "landscape in acrobat reader", or why GSview shows the landscape page upside down. It occurred to me that many of these type of thing could be handled with specials, or directly in LaTeX provided, of course, that LaTeX knew the intended output driver. Here, verbatim, is that message to c.t.t: >\begin{opinion} > With the increasing production of electronic documents, it >is time for latex to standardize the user interface for page >geometry, much as it did graphics inclusion (with the graphics >bundle). > Since pdf output is used as much for viewing as for printing >(if not more), the variety of page layouts is not restricted by >standardized paper sizes. Moreover, the action required to >implement a particular geometry is often driver dependent, so a >common user-level interface is getting to be a must. > Standardization could also provide a consistent set of >definitions. For example, does "landscape" mean to rotate the >media or the text? Which way? This makes little difference if the >output is paper, but on screen it's a different matter. > Merely adding geomerty.sty to the "required" area of latex >would be a step forward. >\end{opinion} I also think that ifpdf.sty or its functionality should now also be considered "required". Dan -- Daniel H. Luecking luecking@uark.edu Department of Mathematical Sciences University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR 72701-1201 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2195E.8643B680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Page geometry in LaTeX

Below is a copy of a ortion of a message I sent to = the
comp.text.tex newsgroup. Someone there, whose opinion = I
respect, suggested it would be good (and more likely = to stir
some discussion and action) to send it to the latex-l = list.

Some background (with which you are all perhaps = familiar): a very
(very, very) frequently asked question on c.t.t is = how to get
some custom page layout, or how to get = "landscape in acrobat reader",
or why GSview shows the landscape page upside down. = It occurred to
me that many of these type of thing could be handled = with specials,
or directly in LaTeX provided, of course, that LaTeX = knew the
intended output driver.

Here, verbatim, is that message to c.t.t:

>\begin{opinion}
>    With the increasing production = of electronic documents, it
>is time for latex to standardize the user = interface for page
>geometry, much as it did graphics inclusion (with = the graphics
>bundle).
>    Since pdf output is used as = much for viewing as for printing
>(if not more), the variety of page layouts is not = restricted by
>standardized paper sizes. Moreover, the action = required to
>implement a particular geometry is often driver = dependent, so a
>common user-level interface is getting to be a = must.
>    Standardization could also = provide a consistent set of
>definitions. For example, does = "landscape" mean to rotate the
>media or the text? Which way? This makes little = difference if the
>output is paper, but on screen it's a different = matter.
>    Merely adding geomerty.sty to = the "required" area of latex
>would be a step forward.
>\end{opinion}

I also think that ifpdf.sty or its functionality = should now also be
considered "required".


Dan

--
Daniel H. = Luecking          = luecking@uark.edu
Department of Mathematical Sciences
University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR = 72701-1201

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