Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f9SEKXu01955 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:20:33 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f9SEKXX30879 . for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:20:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C15FBB.B4354E80" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f9SEKWX10205 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:20:32 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15786 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:20:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f9SEKVq07283 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:20:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f9SEJkf22485; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:19:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id f9SEGY405292; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:16:35 +0100 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0847 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:15:53 +0100 Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id f9SE5r405211 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:05:53 +0100 Return-Path: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: [latex3] can't access web site Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:05:53 +0100 Message-ID: <200110281405.f9SE5r405211@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Bob Kline" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 4168 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C15FBB.B4354E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:21:39 +0200, Rainer Schoepf = wrote: >Please note that latex-l is not the correct list for problems. Usually this is true for a mailing list. However, LATEX-L is the only list I have seen which has a web interface for joining the list and gaining access to the archives that confirms that your registration as successful, but then denies access to the archives and the posting interface. None of the automated messages sent by the interface identify the address of the list administrator. I even tried writing to postmaster@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de, and while the message was delivered successfully I never received a reply. So after several days I gave up and posted a message directly to the list. It was only after I got the rejection bounce of my posting that I finally had an address for the list administrator. I would strongly urge that 1. the web interface for registration be fixed; and 2. the headers for all automated messages include the administrator's email address. I wonder how large the subscriber list for LATEX-L would be if the interface for joining the list weren't broken. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C15FBB.B4354E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [latex3] can't access web site

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:21:39 +0200, Rainer Schoepf = <schoepf@PROTEOSYS.COM>
wrote:

>Please note that latex-l is not the correct list = for problems.

Usually this is true for a mailing list.  = However, LATEX-L is the only
list I have seen which has a web interface for = joining the list and
gaining access to the archives that confirms that = your registration
as successful, but then denies access to the archives = and the posting
interface.  None of the automated messages sent = by the interface
identify the address of the list administrator.  = I even tried writing
to postmaster@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de, and while = the message was
delivered successfully I never received a = reply.  So after several
days I gave up and posted a message directly to the = list.  It was only
after I got the rejection bounce of my posting that I = finally had an
address for the list administrator.

I would strongly urge that

 1. the web interface for registration be fixed; = and
 2. the headers for all automated messages = include the administrator's
    email address.

I wonder how large the subscriber list for LATEX-L = would be if the
interface for joining the list weren't broken.

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