Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f7VIci906508 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:38:44 +0200 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.4/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7VIcST23751 . for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:38:29 +0200 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f7VIcOG20446 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:38:24 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1324C.299AD200" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14813 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:38:24 +0200 (MEST) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f7VIcOG20442 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:38:24 +0200 (MET DST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f7VIagb17431; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:36:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.27]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id f7VIZto11410; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:35:55 +0200 Received: from LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1204 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:35:54 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id f7VIZso11404 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:35:54 +0200 Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f7VIaeb17417 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:36:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15ct9d-00032e-00; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:36:33 +0200 Received: from manz-3e364e7b.pool.mediaways.net ([62.54.78.123] helo=istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de) by mrvdom00.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15ct9c-00069R-01; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:36:33 +0200 Received: (from latex3@localhost) by istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id UAA11491; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:34:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <15247.27772.447636.809305@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Return-Path: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.4.1 X-Authentication-Warning: istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de: latex3 set sender to frank@mittelbach-online.de using -f Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LaTeX3 and Omega Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:34:42 +0100 Message-ID: <15247.55490.840782.239441@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Frank Mittelbach" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4160 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1324C.299AD200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Good news, I think. Formerly, in the discussion previous to the > meeting in Tsukuba, Omega was only *another* possibility, even in = your > messages. (In other words, I didn't misinterpret the Robin's opinion > as the team's opinion, I just included a "deprecated" opinion > ;-) ) Now Omega is the main candidate (if the suggested improvements > are fulfilled in a successor, of course) by far. well yes, but what i was indicating in my last message is that i wont be = able to put as much time into it than i had originally hoped --- so it is up = to you (plural) to help or even make it happen. as i said, we have covered a lot of ground in Metz so there are specs = (though incomplete) and i wouldn't mind seeing discussions on those on a broader = scale (either on this list or elsewhere). problem is that i don't know when i = will find the time to make those specs available (some of them exist only in = John's scrapbook and as huge jepg's since i photographed the pages :-) and i don't know what the state of the whole enterprise is (at the other = side of the world that is --- John wanted to put some students onto it to = test certain ideas) that's something that needs finding out. People seriously interested in putting more than one or the other email into it should = indicate that; we might then be able to to get something going after all frank ps on the more easier aspects of a future LaTeX (as it isn't so much = depending on the underlying formatter): has anybody ever bothered to look at the = new frontmatter stuff that i presented in Metz and put onto the WWW just = before the holiday time? if so i would be interested in some comments; = personally i thought it does its job rather well, but not hearing anything either way = makes me wonder ... ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1324C.299AD200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LaTeX3 and Omega

 > Good news, I think. Formerly, in the = discussion previous to the
 > meeting in Tsukuba, Omega was only = *another* possibility, even in your
 > messages. (In other words, I didn't = misinterpret the Robin's opinion
 > as the team's opinion, I just included a = "deprecated" opinion
 > ;-) ) Now Omega is the main candidate (if = the suggested improvements
 > are fulfilled in a successor, of course) = by far.

well yes, but what i was indicating in my last message = is that i wont be able
to put as much time into it than i had originally = hoped --- so it is up to you
(plural) to help or even make it happen.

as i said, we have covered a lot of ground in Metz so = there are specs (though
incomplete) and i wouldn't mind seeing discussions on = those on a broader scale
(either on this list or elsewhere). problem is that i = don't know when i will
find the time to make those specs available (some of = them exist only in John's
scrapbook and as huge jepg's since i photographed the = pages :-)

and i don't know what the state of the whole = enterprise is (at the other side
of the world that is --- John wanted to put some = students onto it to test
certain ideas) that's something that needs finding = out. People seriously
interested in putting more than one or the other = email into it should indicate
that; we might then be able to to get something going = after all

frank


ps on the more easier aspects of a future LaTeX (as it = isn't so much depending
on the underlying formatter): has anybody ever = bothered to look at the new
frontmatter stuff that i presented in Metz and put = onto the WWW just before
the holiday time? if so i would be interested in some = comments; personally i
thought it does its job rather well, but not hearing = anything either way makes
me wonder ...

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