Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f4PIC6f19563 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:12:06 +0200 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4PIC4718435 . for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:12:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E546.34A3DF00" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4PIC1U12924 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:12:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.57]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13706 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:12:00 +0200 (MEST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4PIC0010712 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:12:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <11.25ED1B58@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:10:03 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 497603 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:11:56 +0200 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26175 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:11:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA53682 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:11:56 +0200 Received: from riemann.math.twsu.edu (riemann.math.twsu.edu [156.26.12.62]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4PIBs129309 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 20:11:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from m330.math.twsu.edu (M330.MATH.TWSU.EDU [156.26.12.24]) by riemann.math.twsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA04772 for ; Fri, 25 May 2001 13:10:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: Return-Path: X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.25/25 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Multilingual Encodings Summary 2.2 Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 05:05:57 +0100 Message-ID: <200105251810.NAA04772@riemann.math.twsu.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Phil Parker" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4103 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E546.34A3DF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/21/2001 at 11:20 PM, Lars Hellstr=F6m wrote: >At least about this aspect of it we can do something. The guidance = given >by LaTeX manuals and the like on what is sensible and what is not is, = in >this area, rather important. > It may be important to LaTeX designers, but it is totally irrelevant to working mathematicians, who will use whatever symbols they deem appropriate with no deference to anyone else's notions of propriety. Collaborations have been known to spend more time arguing about notation than proving theorems. As for examples, they exist -- I've seen more than one. If you haven't, and don't want to take anyone's word for their existence, then it is entirely appropriate that you spend the time and effort looking for = them. One suggestion for help would be to inquire on a math newsgroup. There = is a good list of them available at mathforum.com. A history-of-math = oriented list might be the most fruitful. -- Phil Parker -------------------------------------------- URL http://www.math.twsu.edu/Faculty/Parker/ Random quote: The difference between a misfortune and a calamity? If Gladstone fell into the Thames, it would be a misfortune. But if someone dragged him out again, it would be a calamity. ---Benjamin Disraeli ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E546.34A3DF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Multilingual Encodings Summary 2.2

On 05/21/2001 at 11:20 PM, Lars Hellstr=F6m = <Lars.Hellstrom@MATH.UMU.SE>
wrote:

>At least about this aspect of it we can do = something. The guidance given
>by LaTeX manuals and the like on what is sensible = and what is not is, in
>this area, rather important.
>
It may be important to LaTeX designers, but it is = totally irrelevant to
working mathematicians, who will use whatever symbols = they deem
appropriate with no deference to anyone else's = notions of propriety.
Collaborations have been known to spend more time = arguing about notation
than proving theorems.

As for examples, they exist -- I've seen more than = one. If you haven't,
and don't want to take anyone's word for their = existence, then it is
entirely appropriate that you spend the time and = effort looking for them.
One suggestion for help would be to inquire on a math = newsgroup. There is
a good list of them available at mathforum.com. A = history-of-math oriented
list might be the most fruitful.

--
    Phil Parker
--------------------------------------------
URL http://www.math.twsu.ed= u/Faculty/Parker/
Random quote:
  The difference between a misfortune and a = calamity?
  If Gladstone fell into the Thames, it would be = a misfortune.
  But if someone dragged him out again, it would = be a calamity.
  ---Benjamin Disraeli

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