Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1FLs4H19991 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:54:04 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1FLs3d12233 . for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:54:03 +0100 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1FLs3729346 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:54:03 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09799.CFE42600" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06705 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:54:02 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1FLs2M14029 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:54:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <11.A2748006@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:53:54 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 489333 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:53:58 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23025 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:53:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28560 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:53:57 +0100 Received: from ns.mccme.ru (ns.mccme.ru [195.133.68.22]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1FLrwx05168 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:53:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from cherepan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by ns.mccme.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id AAA32106 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:33:27 +0300 Received: by cherepan.mccme.ru (dMail for DOS v2.07b5, 02Jan00); Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:43:47 +0300 Lines: 17 References: Your message of "Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:50:15 +0100." Return-Path: X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for DOS v2.07b5] Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Why markup? Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:43:47 +0100 Message-ID: <2.07b5.99YV.G8TJ0Z@cherepan.mccme.ru> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Alexander Cherepanov" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3946 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09799.CFE42600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 15-Feb-01 10:56 Hans Aberg wrote: >>So (my) conclusion is: since there are cases which cannot be parsed by = a >>human, markup is not only for stupid computers but is unavoidable in >>principle and is essential when you express such delicate things as >>thoughts in such a coarse form as a written text. > If a sentence cannot be parsed by a human, it is of little use in the > human world I gather. Such a sentence _without markup_ cannot be parsed by a human, so it's useless when it doesn't have markup; I agree. But the author adds markup = to the sentence, so it becomes useful. I'ld like to emphasize that the = author doesn't parse anything (except his thoughts; and his thoughts are = already markuped:-)) when he adds markup to his sentence. Sasha ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09799.CFE42600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Why markup?

15-Feb-01 10:56 Hans Aberg wrote:
>>So (my) conclusion is: since there are cases = which cannot be parsed by a
>>human, markup is not only for stupid = computers but is unavoidable in
>>principle and is essential when you express = such delicate things as
>>thoughts in such a coarse form as a written = text.

> If a sentence cannot be parsed by a human, it is = of little use in the
> human world I gather.

Such a sentence _without markup_ cannot be parsed by a = human, so it's
useless when it doesn't have markup; I agree. But the = author adds markup to
the sentence, so it becomes useful. I'ld like to = emphasize that the author
doesn't parse anything (except his thoughts; and his = thoughts are already
markuped:-)) when he adds markup to his = sentence.

Sasha

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