Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1E9MNH30825 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:23 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1E9MNd05397 . for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09667.A32FF180" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1E9MMM00745 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00793 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:21 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1E9MLM00736 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.762E05DD@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:13 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 487681 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:18 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15017 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09354 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:15 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1E9MGV09308 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14Sy8c-0006j6-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:22:14 +0000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:26:24 GMT." <14985.35424.947585.191055@fell.open.ac.uk> Return-Path: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Multilingual Encodings Summary Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:22:14 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Robin Fairbairns" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3913 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09667.A32FF180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris writes: > David > > > > Now where have I heard that phrase before? > > > > about the time character sets were extended to 7 bits to allow > > the luxury of both upper and lower case. > > That could never have happened: the paper tape was not wide enough! it was, it was (by the end of the era we were using _8-track_ tape!!!). it was just that the computers didn't have the capability of packing anything other than 6-bit characters. > I suppose you are going to tell me that I am wrinkly enough to have > lived through those troubling times. you don't fool me. even _i_ am old enough. > Would that be pre or post-Beatles? yes. proposed (but never set) question[*]: "explain, as to one who thinks there is no problem, why character sets are difficult" roger needham, ca 1970 robin [*] would have been to the diploma in computer science and numerical analysis. we didn't have a _degree_ in comp. sci. back then. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09667.A32FF180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Multilingual Encodings Summary

Chris writes:

> David
>
> > > Now where have I heard that phrase = before?
> >
> > about the time character sets were extended = to 7 bits to allow
> > the luxury of both upper and lower = case.
>
> That could never have happened: the paper tape = was not wide enough!

it was, it was (by the end of the era we were using = _8-track_
tape!!!).  it was just that the computers didn't = have the capability
of packing anything other than 6-bit = characters.

> I suppose you are going to tell me that I am = wrinkly enough to have
> lived through those troubling times.

you don't fool me.  even _i_ am old = enough.

> Would that be pre or post-Beatles?

yes.

proposed (but never set) question[*]:

  "explain, as to one who thinks there is no = problem, why character
   sets are difficult"
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =           roger needham, ca = 1970

robin

[*] would have been to the diploma in computer science = and numerical
analysis.  we didn't have a _degree_ in comp. = sci. back then.

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