Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1DKW9H28131 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:09 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1DKW9d02816 . for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:09 +0100 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1DKW8M23288 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:08 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C095FC.097F2A80" Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.57]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12600 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1DKW5706653 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:07 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <14.DB77165B@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:31:58 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 488972 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:29:02 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09818 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:29:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA33036 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:28:59 +0100 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1DKSwg07302 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:28:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Sm4H-0007XQ-00 for LATEX-L@urz.uni-heidelberg.de; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:28:57 +0100 Received: from manz-3e364871.pool.mediaways.net ([62.54.72.113] helo=istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Sm4P-0000v7-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:29:17 +0100 Received: (from latex3@localhost) by istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id VAA24657; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:05:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <14984.18308.756533.288852@spqr2.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <14982.58110.488910.461010@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.45082.150652.74719@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.51989.349221.285820@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.52380.897443.588837@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.53422.402117.63648@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14983.2022.587938.334186@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14983.47178.155759.245619@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20010212145128.A15449@turing.maths.tcd.ie> <14983.64319.129182.60126@fell.open.ac.uk> <14984.64.432416.64500@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <14984.2975.249847.854981@fell.open.ac.uk> <14984.3191.15849.63044@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <200102121739.SAA08096@ohio.bank.dresdner.net> Return-Path: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.4.1 X-Authentication-Warning: istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de: latex3 set sender to frank@mittelbach-online.de using -f Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or Unicode?) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:05:15 +0100 Message-ID: <14985.37755.363856.248451@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Frank Mittelbach" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3894 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C095FC.097F2A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hans Aberg writes: > At 20:28 +0000 2001/02/12, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > >In a moment, Frank will shout at me in private for getting off the > >subject of the list, and complain in public that no-one takes the L3 > >research seriously enough. > > At 07:09 +0100 2001/02/13, Frank Mittelbach wrote: > >you're a lier and you know it, i seldom shout in private; but happy = birthday > >anyway (in public) > > This reminds me of the mean length of a marriage, namely the fact = that it > becomes meaner the longer it is. -- Perhaps the same is true with > discussions if the stay stuck one the same topic. off by miles. Sebastian and I go way back (though nothing to do with marriage) but I thought it was obvious that I was telling him a lier for = his claim that I shout in private. he is right though about one point: I'm very much interested in concepts = and algorithms for high quality typesetting and think that TeX is a good = basis to actually explore them. Strangely enough a lot of people still turn to = it (LaTeX) when it comes to formatting XML and other documents. frank ------_=_NextPart_001_01C095FC.097F2A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or = Unicode?)

Hans Aberg writes:
 > At 20:28 +0000 2001/02/12, Sebastian Rahtz = wrote:
 > >In a moment, Frank will shout at me in = private for getting off the
 > >subject of the list, and complain in = public that no-one takes the L3
 > >research seriously enough.
 >
 > At 07:09 +0100 2001/02/13, Frank = Mittelbach wrote:
 > >you're a lier and you know it, i = seldom shout in private; but happy birthday
 > >anyway (in public)
 >
 > This reminds me of the mean length of a = marriage, namely the fact that it
 > becomes meaner the longer it is. -- = Perhaps the same is true with
 > discussions if the stay stuck one the same = topic.

off by miles. Sebastian and I go way back = (though  nothing to do with
marriage) but I thought it was obvious that I was = telling him a lier for his
claim that I shout in private.

he is right though about one point: I'm very much = interested in concepts and
algorithms for high quality typesetting and think = that TeX is a good basis
to actually explore them. Strangely enough a lot of = people still turn to it
(LaTeX) when it comes to formatting XML and other = documents.

frank

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