Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1CIDiH21392 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:44 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1CIDid30203 . for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:44 +0100 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CIDh717183 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:43 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0951F.88EAFC00" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13762 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CIDhM04018 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:43 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.5CBEE4D7@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:36 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 488952 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:40 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14367 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA37566 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:39 +0100 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CIDcu15502 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14SNTm-0006Ll-00 for LATEX-L@urz.uni-heidelberg.de; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:13:38 +0100 Received: from manz-3e3645cd.pool.mediaways.net ([62.54.69.205] helo=istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14SNUF-0000RW-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:14:07 +0100 Received: (from latex3@localhost) by istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id TAA02581; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:08:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Return-Path: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.4.1 X-Authentication-Warning: istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de: latex3 set sender to frank@mittelbach-online.de using -f Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Why markup? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:08:18 +0100 Message-ID: <14984.9874.886663.642855@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Frank Mittelbach" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3861 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0951F.88EAFC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -- Again, if there was a better parser at hand, one would not need to = have > any markup at all, because it would be able to see that `20' is the = object give up, unless you want to wait for a parser which "understands" human language (or write one but don't hand wave it) how do you do without markup in this case: The $a$ in the formula is a variable while contrieved i came across that particular problem in math when i = tried to understand an article in Hungarian (i think) about number theory and = misstook an "a" being text as part of a longer inline formula because it was incorrectly coded (by you perhaps?) ie not identifiable easily as math = not text. frank ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0951F.88EAFC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Why markup?

 > -- Again, if there was a better parser at = hand, one would not need to have
 > any markup at all, because it would be = able to see that `20' is the object

give up, unless you want to wait for a parser which = "understands" human
language (or write one but don't hand wave it)

how do you do without markup in this case:

  The $a$ in the formula is a variable

while contrieved i came across that particular problem = in math when i tried to
understand an article in Hungarian (i think) about = number theory and misstook
an "a" being text as part of a longer = inline formula because it was
incorrectly coded (by you perhaps?) ie not = identifiable easily as math not
text.

frank

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