Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1CGHi920386 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:44 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1CGHid29861 . for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CGHgM23706 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:42 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0950F.546F4400" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15033 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:40 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CGHdM23702 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.26587351@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:33 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 488695 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:36 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11134 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA54444 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:29 +0100 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id f1CGHRu04062 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 12 Feb 2001 16:17:26 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <14983.64118.358559.646207@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk>; from sebastian.rahtz@COMPUTING-SERVICES.OXFORD.AC.UK on Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 03:00:06PM +0000 References: <14982.45082.150652.74719@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.51989.349221.285820@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.52380.897443.588837@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.53422.402117.63648@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14983.2022.587938.334186@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14983.47178.155759.245619@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20010212145128.A15449@turing.maths.tcd.ie> <14983.64118.358559.646207@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Return-Path: User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or Unicode?) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:26 +0100 Message-ID: <20010212161726.A43311@boole.maths.tcd.ie> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Timothy Murphy" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3853 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0950F.546F4400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 03:00:06PM +0000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > In the Introduction to the TeXbook Knuth says that TeX was intended > > "especially for books that contain a lot of mathematics". > > > > In this area TeX _has_ taken over the world, > > and there is absolutely no evidence that *ML > > is challenging its pre-eminence. > > so all those undergraduates who used to learn TeX and are now using > Word do not exist? I don't know about Oxford, but I have never seen a mathematics student in Dublin using Word for writing (or printing) mathematics. The last mathematical thesis in Word that I saw was about 8 years ago, and that was by an Australian. You live a very sheltered life among the dreaming spires. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0950F.546F4400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or = Unicode?)

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 03:00:06PM +0000, Sebastian = Rahtz wrote:

>  > In the Introduction to the TeXbook = Knuth says that TeX was intended
>  > "especially for books that = contain a lot of mathematics".
>  >
>  > In this area TeX _has_ taken over the = world,
>  > and there is absolutely no evidence = that *ML
>  > is challenging its = pre-eminence.
>
> so all those undergraduates who used to learn = TeX and are now using
> Word do not exist?

I don't know about Oxford,
but I have never seen a mathematics student in = Dublin
using Word for writing (or printing) = mathematics.
The last mathematical thesis in Word that I = saw
was about 8 years ago,
and that was by an Australian.

You live a very sheltered life among the dreaming = spires.

--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: 086-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, = Dublin 2, Ireland

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