Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1CF3Q919795 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:26 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1CF3Qd29616 . for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:26 +0100 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CF3PM15799 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:25 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09504.F3427300" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24921 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CF3KM15777 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:20 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.C43CB122@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:13 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 488557 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:16 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09624 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28586 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:15 +0100 Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CF3Fu02738 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from fell.open.ac.uk by venus.open.ac.uk via SMTP Local (Mailer 3.1) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:03:12 +0000 Received: (from car2@localhost) by fell.open.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id PAA19207; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:03:27 GMT In-Reply-To: <20010212145128.A15449@turing.maths.tcd.ie> References: <14982.58110.488910.461010@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.45082.150652.74719@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.51989.349221.285820@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.52380.897443.588837@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.53422.402117.63648@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14983.2022.587938.334186@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14983.47178.155759.245619@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> <20010212145128.A15449@turing.maths.tcd.ie> Return-Path: X-Mailer: VM 6.76 under Emacs 20.7.1 X-Authentication-Warning: fell.open.ac.uk: car2 set sender to car2@fell.open.ac.uk using -f Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or Unicode?) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:27 +0100 Message-ID: <14983.64319.129182.60126@fell.open.ac.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Chris Rowley" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3851 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09504.F3427300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Timothy Murphy wrote -- > On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:17:46AM +0000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > TeX, per se, failed in its attempt to take over the world. > > Did Knuth ever intend to "take over the world"? He did not. Neither did any other knowledgable individual I ever met. > In the Introduction to the TeXbook Knuth says that TeX was intended > "especially for books that contain a lot of mathematics". > > In this area TeX _has_ taken over the world, Even more eternally, it is the unique public de facto archival and communication language for research activity in a range of disciplines around mathematics ... and in this sense it is growing in importance even now. But this has very little to do with TeX the program or LaTeX as it is being discussed here. chris ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09504.F3427300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or = Unicode?)

Timothy Murphy wrote --
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:17:46AM +0000, = Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>
> > TeX, per se, failed in its attempt to take = over the world.
>
> Did Knuth ever intend to "take over the = world"?

He did not.  Neither did any other knowledgable = individual I ever met.

> In the Introduction to the TeXbook Knuth says = that TeX was intended
> "especially for books that contain a lot of = mathematics".
>
> In this area TeX _has_ taken over the = world,

Even more eternally, it is the unique public de facto = archival and
communication language for research activity in a = range of disciplines
around mathematics ... and in this sense it is = growing in importance
even now.

But this has very little to do with TeX the program or = LaTeX as it is
being discussed here.


chris

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