Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1CEq7919703 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:52:07 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1CEq1d29549 . for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:52:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CEpk727592 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:51 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09503.5E8B4580" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21494 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:46 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CEpjM14538 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.2446147A@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:35 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 488498 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:31 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09263 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA59256 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:30 +0100 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id f1CEpUu26665 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from turing.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 12 Feb 2001 14:51:28 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <14983.47178.155759.245619@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk>; from sebastian.rahtz@COMPUTING-SERVICES.OXFORD.AC.UK on Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:17:46AM +0000 References: <14982.58110.488910.461010@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.45082.150652.74719@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.51989.349221.285820@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.52380.897443.588837@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.53422.402117.63648@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14983.2022.587938.334186@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14983.47178.155759.245619@spqr.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Return-Path: User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or Unicode?) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:28 +0100 Message-ID: <20010212145128.A15449@turing.maths.tcd.ie> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Timothy Murphy" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3849 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09503.5E8B4580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:17:46AM +0000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > TeX, per se, failed in its attempt to take over the world. Did Knuth ever intend to "take over the world"? In the Introduction to the TeXbook Knuth says that TeX was intended "especially for books that contain a lot of mathematics". In this area TeX _has_ taken over the world, and there is absolutely no evidence that *ML is challenging its pre-eminence. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09503.5E8B4580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or = Unicode?)

On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:17:46AM +0000, Sebastian = Rahtz wrote:

> TeX, per se, failed in its attempt to take over = the world.

Did Knuth ever intend to "take over the = world"?
In the Introduction to the TeXbook Knuth says that = TeX was intended
"especially for books that contain a lot of = mathematics".

In this area TeX _has_ taken over the world,
and there is absolutely no evidence that *ML
is challenging its pre-eminence.

--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: 086-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, = Dublin 2, Ireland

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