Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1CADZ915178 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:35 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1CADYd28668 . for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C094DC.756A7180" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CADX700066 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06780 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:33 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CADWM18641 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <6.484EAEF6@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:25 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 487937 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:28 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03449 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32300 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:28 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1CADRu19201 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14SFz5-0001Cm-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:13:27 +0000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:50:15 +0100." Return-Path: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: inputenc text (and/or math) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:13:27 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Robin Fairbairns" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3839 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C094DC.756A7180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hans aberg (wouldn't you know) writes: > If one carries out your argument, then there should be no math = environment. here we go again. we _can't_ do without a maths environment, because tex is coded in such a way that it's as near absolutely essential as makes no difference. > If one leaves numbers out in a text mode, then those that want to use > numbers will have to do some additional markup, be it "math" or = "phone" or > whatever. having markup to encase digits in text is often useful; i agree. phone numbers are a case in point. however, i would fight hard indeed against your crazy suggestion that we need to mark up (for example) quantities written numerically "... there are between three and \mathematicalnumber{20} of these creatures, according to the time of day..." complete lunacy, imo. robin ------_=_NextPart_001_01C094DC.756A7180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: inputenc text (and/or math)

hans aberg (wouldn't you know) writes:

> If one carries out your argument, then there = should be no math environment.

here we go again.

we _can't_ do without a maths environment, because tex = is coded in
such a way that it's as near absolutely essential as = makes no
difference.

> If one leaves numbers out in a text mode, then = those that want to use
> numbers will have to do some additional markup, = be it "math" or "phone" or
> whatever.

having markup to encase digits in text is often = useful; i agree.
phone numbers are a case in point.

however, i would fight hard indeed against your crazy = suggestion that
we need to mark up (for example) quantities written = numerically

 "... there are between three and = \mathematicalnumber{20} of these
      creatures, according = to the time of day..."

complete lunacy, imo.

robin

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