Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1BL7tH12186 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:55 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1BL7sd26343 . for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0946E.B3C94780" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BL7s726901 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27396 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:54 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BL7rM15390 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <9.8788DEBC@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:47 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 487812 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:50 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27065 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24964 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:49 +0100 Received: from Sina.sharif.ac.ir (sina.Sharif.AC.IR [194.225.40.9]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BL7hu29160 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (roozbeh@localhost) by Sina.sharif.ac.ir (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19398 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:37:37 +0330 In-Reply-To: <14982.58110.488910.461010@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Return-Path: X-Sender: roozbeh@Sina.sharif.ac.ir Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or Unicode?) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:07:37 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Roozbeh Pournader" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3822 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0946E.B3C94780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Marcel Oliver wrote: > If you didn't tell me anything, I would run it with the (hopefully > some day to be default) input encoding UTF8. If your file was clean > ASCII, it would work in any case. Only if you had used some limited 8 > bit encoding you would need to tell me about the encoding explicitly. That's exactly how Unicode people and Unicode fans want to look at the future. Markus Kuhn's ideas (you should have read that by now) are = really clear in this area. > I assume in the Windows world > it's also mostly distribution driven. People will get angry with me, but I think the mostly used Windows distributions is MiKTeX, and it is going towards a bautiful updating model. --roozbeh ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0946E.B3C94780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or = Unicode?)

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Marcel Oliver wrote:

> If you didn't tell me anything, I would run it = with the (hopefully
> some day to be default) input encoding = UTF8.  If your file was clean
> ASCII, it would work in any case.  Only if = you had used some limited 8
> bit encoding you would need to tell me about the = encoding explicitly.

That's exactly how Unicode people and Unicode fans = want to look at the
future. Markus Kuhn's ideas (you should have read = that by now) are really
clear in this area.

>   I assume in the Windows world
>   it's also mostly distribution = driven.

People will get angry with me, but I think the mostly = used Windows
distributions is MiKTeX, and it is going towards a = bautiful updating
model.

--roozbeh

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