Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1BKpoH12149 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:50 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1BKpod26298 . for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:50 +0100 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BKpn726359 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:49 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0946C.7499F700" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25413 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BKpmM14750 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:48 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <14.4801A49F@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:41 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 487799 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:45 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26819 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA36552 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:44 +0100 Received: from hromeo.algonet.se (hromeo.algonet.se [194.213.74.51]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id f1BKpTu22184 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:29 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 6865 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 21:51:29 +0100 Received: from garibaldi.tninet.se (HELO algonet.se) (195.100.94.103) by hromeo.algonet.se with SMTP; 11 Feb 2001 21:51:29 +0100 Received: from [195.100.226.136] (du140-226.ppp.su-anst.tninet.se [195.100.226.140]) by garibaldi.tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.2.1) with ESMTP id 907325.924687.981garibaldi-s0 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:51:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <14982.62788.594059.450139@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> References: <14982.58110.488910.461010@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.45082.150652.74719@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.51989.349221.285820@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.52380.897443.588837@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.53422.402117.63648@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> <14982.58110.488910.461010@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Return-Path: X-Sender: haberg@pop.matematik.su.se Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or Unicode?) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:50:15 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Hans Aberg" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3820 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0946C.7499F700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 21:25 +0100 2001/02/11, Frank Mittelbach wrote: >if you look at it from the point of available successors: > > - etex is stable but the features are far too internal to make a = convincing > argument for people to switch to a version ... > - pdftex has a (potential) maintenance problem (and also lacks the = features ... > - omega is or was up to now too unstable in its features, ie far too = much > evolving to base LaTeX on it and also lacks above features... Meta reasoning from the impression of TeX I get, developed as a series smart, but quick features lacking true generality and depth, I surmise = that any attempt in developing a TeX successor by enhancing it will fail. Hans Aberg ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0946C.7499F700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or = Unicode?)

At 21:25 +0100 2001/02/11, Frank Mittelbach = wrote:
>if you look at it from the point of available = successors:
>
> - etex is stable but the features are far too = internal to make a convincing
>   argument for people to switch to a = version
...
> - pdftex has a (potential) maintenance problem = (and also lacks the features
...
> - omega is or was up to now too unstable in its = features, ie far too much
>   evolving to base LaTeX on it and = also lacks above features...

Meta reasoning from the impression of TeX I get, = developed as a series
smart, but quick features lacking true generality and = depth, I surmise that
any attempt in developing a TeX successor by = enhancing it will fail.

  Hans Aberg

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