Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1BIAIH11799 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:10:18 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1BIAHd25830 . for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:10:17 +0100 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BIAH719261 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:10:17 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09455.E3B82100" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02639 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:10:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BIAGM07378 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:10:16 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.B50C2C1C@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:10:06 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 487712 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:10:07 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23878 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:09:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA33332 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:09:59 +0100 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BI9xu27341 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:09:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14S0wg-0001M0-00 for LATEX-L@urz.uni-heidelberg.de; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:09:58 +0100 Received: from manz-3e364890.pool.mediaways.net ([62.54.72.144] helo=istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14S0we-0003Nl-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:09:56 +0100 Received: (from latex3@localhost) by istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) id TAA12443; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:06:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Return-Path: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.4.1 X-Authentication-Warning: istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de: latex3 set sender to frank@mittelbach-online.de using -f Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: hyphenation morass Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:06:05 +0100 Message-ID: <14982.54413.876872.204368@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Frank Mittelbach" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3809 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09455.E3B82100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apostolos, > I agree with you. TeX imposes, in my opinion, arbitrary limitation = that > have no place in a world of super fast PCs with virtually unlimited > memory compared to the machines of the seventies. The future is Omega > or any Unicode based typesetting engine capable to handle OpenType > fonts and able to generate PDF. how much evidence do you really have with respect to this? this is a = serious question. unfortunately the majority of the owners of super fast PCs and unlimited memory have no use for even simple accents that would fit comfortably into a single 8bit encoding, eg T1, and a lot of those who = could make good use of Omega currently are working with the machines of the seventies or not far further. the situation is better than it was 5 year ago but is it really as you = claim? or will it be (soon?) frank ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09455.E3B82100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: hyphenation morass

Apostolos,

 > I agree with you. TeX imposes, in my = opinion, arbitrary limitation that
 > have no place in a world of super fast PCs = with virtually unlimited
 > memory compared to the machines of the = seventies. The future is Omega
 > or any Unicode based typesetting engine = capable to handle OpenType
 > fonts and able to generate PDF.

how much evidence do you really have with respect to = this? this is a serious
question. unfortunately the majority of the owners of = super fast PCs and
unlimited memory have no use for even simple accents = that would fit
comfortably into a single 8bit encoding, eg T1, and a = lot of those who could
make good use of Omega currently are working with the = machines of the
seventies or not far further.

the situation is better than it was 5 year ago but is = it really as you claim?
or will it be (soon?)

frank

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