Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f1BGFuH11571 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:57 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1BGFod25531 . for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09445.EA3E9C80" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BGFiM02528 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16482 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:44 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1BGFhM02524 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <13.B6FCC6B4@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:37 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 487614 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:40 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20876 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA39068 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:39 +0100 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id f1BGFbu09662 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:37 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <14982.45082.150652.74719@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de>; from frank.mittelbach@LATEX-PROJECT.ORG on Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 04:30:34PM +0100 References: <200102091445.JAA00482@plmsc.psu.edu> <200102091643.RAA23818@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> <14980.23750.628032.305093@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <14982.45082.150652.74719@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Return-Path: User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or Unicode?) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:15:37 +0100 Message-ID: <20010211161537.A14176@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Timothy Murphy" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3797 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09445.EA3E9C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 04:30:34PM +0100, Frank Mittelbach wrote: > TeX is 7bit with a parser that accepts 8bit but doesn't by default = gives it > any meaning. On the other hand Omega is 16bit (or more these days?) = and could > be viewed as internally using something like Unicode for = representation. But isn't the 7/8-bit stuff in TeX "system-dependent"? I take this to mean optional. Couldn't one therefore make UTF-8 the standard without even asking the Great Man's premission? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: 086-233 6090 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09445.EA3E9C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LaTeX's internal char prepresentation (UTF8 or = Unicode?)

On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 04:30:34PM +0100, Frank = Mittelbach wrote:

> TeX is 7bit with a parser that accepts 8bit but = doesn't by default gives it
> any meaning. On the other hand Omega is 16bit = (or more these days?) and could
> be viewed as internally using something like = Unicode for representation.

But isn't the 7/8-bit stuff in TeX = "system-dependent"?
I take this to mean optional.
Couldn't one therefore make UTF-8 the standard
without even asking the Great Man's = premission?

--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: 086-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, = Dublin 2, Ireland

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