Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f16D8xH18181 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:59 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f16D8wd04701 . for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0903D.F7BAE780" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f16D8w700172 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.57]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16568 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:57 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f16D8v700166 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <4.CA21280F@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:48 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 488275 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:44 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03171 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18134 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:43 +0100 Received: from nag.co.uk (openmath.nag.co.uk [62.232.54.144]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f16D8fu02936 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id NAA23622; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:08:21 GMT In-Reply-To: <200102061257.NAA02455@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> (message from Thierry Bouche on Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:57:33 +0100) References: <20010206101702.A5774@clipper.ens.fr> <200102061257.NAA02455@mozart.ujf-grenoble.Fr> Return-Path: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: default inputenc/fontenc tight to language Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:08:21 +0100 Message-ID: <200102061308.NAA23622@nag.co.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "David Carlisle" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3717 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0903D.F7BAE780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I don't see a good reason for requiring all >127 actives. For French. For English you could use 7bit TeX2, but in general to support multiple input encodings that are different to the font = encodings you need them active. Changing catcodes anywhere causes multiple problems (It's not at all clear that the slight convenience feature of the \verb command was worth all the user errors and confusion it causes with \verb being used in arguments). So if you can't change catcodes and some encodings need the characters active, the only solution appeared to be (back then) that all characters above 127 should be active. David ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0903D.F7BAE780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: default inputenc/fontenc tight to language

> I don't see a good reason for  requiring all = >127 actives.

For French. For English you could use 7bit TeX2, but = in general to
support multiple input encodings that are different = to the font encodings
you need them active. Changing catcodes anywhere = causes multiple
problems (It's not at all clear that the slight = convenience feature of
the \verb command was worth all the user errors and = confusion it causes
with \verb being used in arguments). So if you can't = change catcodes
and some encodings need the characters active, the = only solution
appeared to be (back then) that all characters above = 127 should be
active.


David

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