Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f0V9kP716878 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:25 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0V9lD730938 . for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:47:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C08B6A.ACE72E80" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0V9kOM04126 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28622 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:24 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0V9kNM04122 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.82B781DF@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:20 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 485318 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:20 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15343 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14824 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:19 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0V9kJp02180 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 14NtqE-0004Xc-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:46:18 +0000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:38:38 +0100." <20010131103838.A5711@clipper.ens.fr> Return-Path: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: default font encoding Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Robin Fairbairns" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3681 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08B6A.ACE72E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable in response to > Maybe another way to do it is to put it in babel. English writers = don't > really need T1 fonts, and don't need a change in latex2e right now. = But > any language in babel could have a default inputenc and fontenc, such > that setting > > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > > or (german, or any west europe language) would automatically set the = T1 > fontenc and the latin1 inputenc. Setting > > \usepackage[russian]{babel} > > would select a different and suitable (inputenc,fontenc) tupple. and a french commentary on a russian text would... ? it's not as simple as you imagine (not least because the inputenc side of things is so complicated for russian). denis roegel brought this idea up in pr babel/3046, and there's a pretty clear response from johannes in the database (the response actually appeared this week, and _is_ in the database -- i've just checked). http://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=3Dbabel/3046 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08B6A.ACE72E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: default font encoding

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> Maybe another way to do it is to put it in babel. = English writers don't
> really need T1 fonts, and don't need a change in = latex2e right now. But
> any language in babel could have a default = inputenc and fontenc, such
> that setting
>
>         = \usepackage[francais]{babel}
>
> or (german, or any west europe language) would = automatically set the T1
> fontenc and the latin1 inputenc. Setting
>
>         = \usepackage[russian]{babel}
>
> would select a different and suitable = (inputenc,fontenc) tupple.

and a french commentary on a russian text would... = ?

it's not as simple as you imagine (not least because = the inputenc side
of things is so complicated for russian).

denis roegel brought this idea up in pr babel/3046, = and there's a
pretty clear response from johannes in the database = (the response
actually appeared this week, and _is_ in the database = -- i've just
checked).

htt= p://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=3Dbabel/3046

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