Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f0UAkN712230 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:23 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0UAl9726451 . for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:47:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0UAkM705740 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:22 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C08AA9.E310A980" Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07594 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:21 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0UAkKM01571 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <15.B88903A3@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:18 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 485307 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:16 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19423 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15196 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:15 +0100 Received: from abel.math.umu.se (abel.math.umu.se [130.239.20.139]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0UAkFY16242 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from [130.239.20.144] (mac144.math.umu.se [130.239.20.144]) by abel.math.umu.se (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA17528; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:44:35 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <200101292234.RAA14964@pluto.math.albany.edu> Return-Path: X-Sender: lars@abel.math.umu.se x-mime-autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de id LAA19424 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: default font encoding Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:46:12 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars_Hellstr=F6m?= Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3669 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08AA9.E310A980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 23.34 +0100 2001-01-29, William F. Hammond wrote: >Frank -- > >I don't know if you are aware of some private correspondence that I've >had with others. But most who read this list were certainly not part >of it. > >I think that switching the default font encoding to T1 is probably a >good thing to do. > >I hope then that by default there are supported names like >\textgreater \textasciitilde, etc. for all 33 non-alphanumeric >printable ascii characters including 0x20 that work properly in >various LaTeX contexts. But those are already working regardless of whether you use T1 or OT1, = the difference is only that when you use OT1 the \textgreater is taken from OML. Most likely there are characters in latin1 which are provided by = TS1 rather than T1, so there's no fundamental difference. >In the general context of formatting from XML to LaTeX source, though >not so much in my specific context, nor in the context of authors = coming >from a LaTeX or TeX background, I am concerned about what happens with >8 bit characters in the range 0xA0 - 0xFF from the various ISO 8 bit >character sets. Those should be converted to "LaTeX internal representation" (i.e. \textgreater and friends) by your XML-to-LaTeX converter. The inputenc package only exists for the convenience of humans, not automatic converters, which should instead produce documents that use visible = 7-bit ASCII throughout. Lars Hellstr=F6m ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08AA9.E310A980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: default font encoding

At 23.34 +0100 2001-01-29, William F. Hammond = wrote:
>Frank --
>
>I don't know if you are aware of some private = correspondence that I've
>had with others.  But most who read this = list were certainly not part
>of it.
>
>I think that switching the default font encoding = to T1 is probably a
>good thing to do.
>
>I hope then that by default there are supported = names like
>\textgreater \textasciitilde, etc. for all 33 = non-alphanumeric
>printable ascii characters including 0x20 that = work properly in
>various LaTeX contexts.

But those are already working regardless of whether = you use T1 or OT1, the
difference is only that when you use OT1 the = \textgreater is taken from
OML. Most likely there are characters in latin1 which = are provided by TS1
rather than T1, so there's no fundamental = difference.

>In the general context of formatting from XML to = LaTeX source, though
>not so much in my specific context, nor in the = context of authors coming
>from a LaTeX or TeX background, I am concerned = about what happens with
>8 bit characters in the range 0xA0 - 0xFF from = the various ISO 8 bit
>character sets.

Those should be converted to "LaTeX internal = representation" (i.e.
\textgreater and friends) by your XML-to-LaTeX = converter. The inputenc
package only exists for the convenience of humans, = not automatic
converters, which should instead produce documents = that use visible 7-bit
ASCII throughout.

Lars Hellstr=F6m

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