Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f0U8D2711285 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:13:02 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0U8Dm726018 . for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:13:48 +0100 Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0U8D1M18184 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:13:01 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C08A94.76D77B00" Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.57]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04061 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:12:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0U8Cu721701 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:12:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <8.4A58D04D@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 9:12:53 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 485062 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:12:52 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16755 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:12:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA34540 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:12:51 +0100 Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0U8CoY27294 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:12:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14NVuD-0002ha-00 for LATEX-L@urz.uni-heidelberg.de; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:12:49 +0100 Received: from pd9502cde.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.80.44.222] helo=servus) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14NVu0-0000wZ-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:12:37 +0100 Organization: Art & Satz References: <14965.53535.903052.219374@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: default font encoding Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:11:57 +0100 Message-ID: <003401c08a94$512bed00$78e2fea9@servus> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Ulrich Dirr" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3666 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08A94.76D77B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've never used T1 encoding. No Computer Modern at all, or type-1 = versions (the typewriter font is still the best ;-)). So when you froze T1 = encoded fonts into the core that means that after building the format file I = need these T1 fonts. But I'm not aware of free type-1 fonts for T1 encoding. Ulrich Dirr -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstra=DFe 9 81369 M=FCnchen Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=3D*:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Mittelbach" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" = Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:22 PM Subject: default font encoding > we have publically announced often enough that the core of 2e is essentially > frozen except for serious bug fixes and new development should happen = at > package level --- all this because of compatibility making sure that documents > do work identically (as far as possible) from one maintenence release = to the > next, and i still think this is the right decision. > > i nevertheless begin to wonder if we should change the default font encoding > from OT1 to T1 so that more people get proper hyphenation without the need to > say > > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > > in their documents and would be interested to hear what the opinion on this > list would be (not that i consider this list a representative sample = of the > average LaTeX user). > > opinions? > > frank ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08A94.76D77B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: default font encoding

I've never used T1 encoding. No Computer Modern at = all, or type-1 versions
(the typewriter font is still the best ;-)). So when = you froze T1 encoded
fonts into the core that means that after building = the format file I need
these T1 fonts. But I'm not aware of free type-1 = fonts for T1 encoding.

Ulrich Dirr

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Mittelbach" = <frank.mittelbach@LATEX-PROJECT.ORG>
To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" = <LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:22 PM
Subject: default font encoding


> we have publically announced often enough that = the core of 2e is
essentially
> frozen except for serious bug fixes and new = development should happen at
> package level --- all this because of = compatibility making sure that
documents
> do work identically (as far as possible) from = one maintenence release to
the
> next, and i still think this is the right = decision.
>
> i nevertheless begin to wonder if we should = change the default font
encoding
> from OT1 to T1 so that more people get proper = hyphenation without the
need to
> say
>
>   \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
>
> in their documents and would be interested to = hear what the opinion on
this
> list would be (not that i consider this list a = representative sample of
the
> average LaTeX user).
>
> opinions?
>
> frank

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