Received: from webgate.proteosys.de (mail.proteosys-ag.com [62.225.9.49]) by lucy.proteosys (8.11.0/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id f08FIk707808 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:46 +0100 Received: by webgate.proteosys.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f08FJ1704398 . for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:19:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C07986.4B2A0F00" Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailserver1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.30]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f08FIj027539 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03034 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:44 +0100 (MET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f08FIiM16397 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.20A53DC9@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:41 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 478845 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:19 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28744 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24660 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:18:17 +0100 Received: from csc.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f08FHoU03191 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:17:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from hilbert.math.albany.edu (hilbert.math.albany.edu [169.226.23.52]) by csc.albany.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23457 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hammond@localhost) by hilbert.math.albany.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03747 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:16:59 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: GELLMU progress Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:16:59 +0100 Message-ID: <200101081516.KAA03747@hilbert.math.albany.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "William F. Hammond" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3648 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07986.4B2A0F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sebastian Rahtz writes: > William F. Hammond writes: > > Actually, I am more interested in getting a copy for Info trees = than > > in a TEI copy. (And there is now an SGML version of Texinfo thanks = to > > Daniele Giacomini that formats to Texinfo.) I guess I thought that > > TEI fans might bite. > > TEI fans just write TEI, I suspect.... Any DocBook fans? (A formatter from DocBook to Texinfo was begun by Dan Burton.) > > The power of sgmlspl (though not the speed) can match that of any > > method except possibly when one wants to descend into CDATA = segments. > > er, nonsense. sgmlspl provides no full access to the document tree, as > DOM or XPATH do. you have to code it yourself, which is a bore. Well, overstated. After all, XML really wasn't "out" at the time Megginson's SGMLS.pm was last revised (Dec. 1995). Since it reads the SP ESIS and by conscious design does not build the whole document tree as a structure, there are some chores^{1}. But there are also tradeoffs. The power of Perl is a very good thing. It can be used to write very good LaTeX. (Whether the LaTeX that I'm writing with it is good enough for somebody else's standard is another question.) -- Bill Notes: 1. Actually, some of the chores can be avoided by following strategies that are not immediately apparent. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07986.4B2A0F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: GELLMU progress

Sebastian Rahtz writes:

> William F. Hammond writes:
>  > Actually, I am more interested in = getting a copy for Info trees than
>  > in a TEI copy.  (And there is = now an SGML version of Texinfo thanks to
>  > Daniele Giacomini that formats to = Texinfo.)  I guess I thought that
>  > TEI fans might bite.
>
> TEI fans just write TEI, I suspect....

Any DocBook fans?  (A formatter from DocBook to = Texinfo was begun by
Dan Burton.)

>  > The power of sgmlspl (though not the = speed) can match that of any
>  > method except possibly when one wants = to descend into CDATA segments.
>
> er, nonsense. sgmlspl provides no full access to = the document tree, as
> DOM or XPATH do. you have to code it yourself, = which is a bore.

Well, overstated.  After all, XML really wasn't = "out" at the time
Megginson's SGMLS.pm was last revised (Dec. = 1995).  Since it reads the
SP ESIS and by conscious design does not build the = whole document
tree as a structure, there are some chores^{1}.  = But there are
also tradeoffs.  The power of Perl is a very = good thing.  It can be
used to write very good LaTeX.  (Whether the = LaTeX that I'm writing
with it is good enough for somebody else's standard = is another
question.)

          &nbs= p;            = ;            = -- Bill

Notes:

1.  Actually, some of the chores can be avoided = by following strategies
that are not immediately apparent.

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