Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user schoepf) for schoepf; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.57]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28867 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:39 +0200 (MEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0292A.DA0CA180" Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8S92cd19374 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <1.13F8FD2F@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:38 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 471544 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:36 +0200 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19201 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA38600 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:34 +0200 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01117 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:02:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from pallas.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.8.88] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 13eZaL-0006KN-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:02:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:51:48 +0200." <200009280851.KAA23024@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Return-Path: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Diacritical marks in Zapf Chancery Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:02:32 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Robin Fairbairns" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3616 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0292A.DA0CA180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > =BB fontinst > =BB has been making 8r.fd files at least since v1.5 (1996), = but I have > =BB never seen a corresponding 8renc.def ... > > the unsupported 8r.sty is the supposed way to use them under poor > systems that don't support properly =A0VFs. > > (Are all these things really sound on this list?) of course they're not; they have absolutely nothing to do with the development of latex, and would be better dealt with on comp.text.tex nevertheless, thanks to all of those who've cleared up problems with current latex for people, but users of the list -- PLEASE don't submit bug reports here. there are publicly available resources for dealing with tex problems, and they don't include this list. no-one with half-way reasonable web access has any justification for failing to use comp.text.tex -- deja.com has reasonable retention and is free (even if it _is_ pretty much crippled as an archive resource just now). we (the latex team) are unlikely to schedule work on bugs that aren't in our database. people with bugs (rather than infelicities such as the present problem) should use latexbug to report them, making sure they have the correct category for their report, and that they include a *minimal* sample. mime attachments tend to get mangled by the bugs database and should be avoided if at all possible. Robin Fairbairns ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0292A.DA0CA180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Diacritical marks in Zapf Chancery

> =BB fontinst
> =BB has been making 8r<family>.fd files at = least since v1.5 (1996), but I have
> =BB never seen a corresponding 8renc.def = ...
>
> the unsupported 8r.sty is the supposed way to = use them under poor
> systems that don't support properly = =A0VFs.
>
> (Are all these things really sound on this = list?)

of course they're not; they have absolutely nothing to = do with the
development of latex, and would be better dealt with = on comp.text.tex

nevertheless, thanks to all of those who've cleared up = problems with
current latex for people, but users of the list -- = PLEASE don't submit
bug reports here.  there are publicly available = resources for dealing
with tex problems, and they don't include this = list.

no-one with half-way reasonable web access has any = justification for
failing to use comp.text.tex -- deja.com has = reasonable retention and
is free (even if it _is_ pretty much crippled as an = archive resource
just now).

we (the latex team) are unlikely to schedule work on = bugs that aren't
in our database.  people with bugs (rather than = infelicities such as
the present problem) should use latexbug to report = them, making sure
they have the correct category for their report, and = that they include
a *minimal* sample.  mime attachments tend to = get mangled by the bugs
database and should be avoided if at all = possible.

Robin Fairbairns

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