Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user schoepf) for schoepf; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.57]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21898 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:33 +0200 (MEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8L7BVP19549 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:32 +0200 (MET DST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0239B.2C821700" Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <2.6557BE6E@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 9:11:31 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 471272 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:27 +0200 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22297 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32268 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:25 +0200 Received: from epsilon.dynaweb.de (epsilon.dynaweb.de [195.88.176.162]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA11895 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 81417 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2000 07:11:24 -0000 Received: from p3e9b8e5c.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO servus) (62.155.142.92) by epsilon.dynaweb.de with SMTP; 21 Sep 2000 07:11:24 -0000 Organization: Art & Satz References: Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: Baseline grid alignment after headings Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:29:32 +0100 Message-ID: <004c01c0239a$f9642700$78e2fea9@servus> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Ulrich Dirr" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3602 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0239B.2C821700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I'm astonished! I thought \fontdimen 8 to 12 are parameters for = fractions, and fontdimen 13 is for exponents (and normal text fonts usually contain only fontdimen 1 to 7)??? Is the TeXBook, chap. G now obsolete? Regards, Ulrich -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstra=DFe 9 81369 M=FCnchen Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=3D*:-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Hellstr=F6m" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" = Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Baseline grid alignment after headings > At 09.42 +0200 2000-09-20, Ulrich Dirr wrote: > [snip] > >May be it would be helpful if -- and what is in the AFM files -- to > >incorporate the ascender/cap height into the TFM (and let TeX know = about > >that), so that one could align special material with respect to the > >ascender/cap heigth. > > T1 encoded fonts in general already include these two parameters and a > couple of others. I would guess that the ones that interest you are: > \fontdimen 8 is cap height > \fontdimen 9 is ascender height > \fontdimen 10 is accented cap height > \fontdimen 11 is descender's depth > \fontdimen 12 is max height > \fontdimen 13 is max depth > I don't think there is a proper LaTeX interface for using them yet = though > (although I think something like a fontdimen interface was part of = some > early template example). > > OTOH I have the impression that the usual way of getting predictable height > and depth of a box is to include a \strut in them (this is not all = that > nice since the dimensions of the \strutbox only depends on the > \baselineskip, but people usually make do anyway). > > Lars Hellstr=F6m > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0239B.2C821700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Baseline grid alignment after headings

Hi.

I'm astonished! I thought \fontdimen 8 to 12 are = parameters for fractions,
and fontdimen 13 is for exponents (and normal text = fonts usually contain
only fontdimen 1 to 7)??? Is the TeXBook, chap. G now = obsolete?

Regards,
Ulrich

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lars Hellstr=F6m" = <Lars.Hellstrom@MATH.UMU.SE>
To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" = <LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: Baseline grid alignment after = headings


> At 09.42 +0200 2000-09-20, Ulrich Dirr = wrote:
> [snip]
> >May be it would be helpful if -- and what is = in the AFM files -- to
> >incorporate the ascender/cap height into the = TFM (and let TeX know about
> >that), so that one could align special = material with respect to the
> >ascender/cap heigth.
>
> T1 encoded fonts in general already include = these two parameters and a
> couple of others. I would guess that the ones = that interest you are:
>   \fontdimen  8  is cap = height
>   \fontdimen  9  is ascender = height
>   \fontdimen 10  is accented cap = height
>   \fontdimen 11  is descender's = depth
>   \fontdimen 12  is max = height
>   \fontdimen 13  is max = depth
> I don't think there is a proper LaTeX interface = for using them yet though
> (although I think something like a fontdimen = interface was part of some
> early template example).
>
> OTOH I have the impression that the usual way of = getting predictable
height
> and depth of a box is to include a \strut in = them (this is not all that
> nice since the dimensions of the \strutbox only = depends on the
> \baselineskip, but people usually make do = anyway).
>
> Lars Hellstr=F6m
>

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