Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user schoepf) for schoepf; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:50:16 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05401 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:50:15 +0200 (MEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C022D7.6A1D6C00" Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e8K7oFU04775 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:50:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <1.A35AEA0F@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 9:50:14 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 471252 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:50:12 +0200 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18861 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:46:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23226 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:46:37 +0200 Received: from epsilon.dynaweb.de (epsilon.dynaweb.de [195.88.176.162]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05221 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:46:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 73439 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2000 07:44:35 -0000 Received: from p3e9b8e45.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO servus) (62.155.142.69) by epsilon.dynaweb.de with SMTP; 20 Sep 2000 07:44:35 -0000 Organization: Art & Satz Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: incompatibility of xinitials? Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:42:42 +0100 Message-ID: <008a01c022d6$71796220$78e2fea9@servus> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Ulrich Dirr" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3598 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C022D7.6A1D6C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. As Chris Rowley (from the latex-project.org) has suggested to me I'll sending my last two mails (seperately) to this list ... I've tried to use xinitials in one of my recent projects (with several packages loaded). I experienced some strange behavior. I used a test = file TEST.TEX: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- %FORMAT: LaTeX \documentclass[a4paper]{book} \usepackage{Winawer} \input{xinitials.sig} \setlength{\overfullrule}{0.3cm} \begin{document} \setcounter{page}{30} \setboolean{printermarks}{true}\cropmarks \setboolean{statusinformations}{true} \setboolean{baselinegrid}{false} \setcounter{Diagramm}{1} \setcounter{ADiagramm}{1} \setcounter{gamenotationno}{1} \chapter{Zur Geschichte} \ExtendedInitial*[ initial-font =3D \fontfamily{mtlr}\fontseries{m}\fontshape{n}\fontsize{69}{69}\selectfont,= parshape-list =3D {0pt,0pt,0pt,0pt}, v-adjust =3D 0pt, h-adjust =3D -10pt, text-sep =3D 2pt,] {\textcolor{hks17}{N}}[\textcolor{hks17}{och}] in der Mitte des 19.~Jahrhunderts galt die Wahl der franz=F6sischen \mbox{Verteidigung} haupts=E4chlich als Versuch, der umfangreichen = Theorie der offenen Spiele nach |1. e4 e5| zu entkommen: In der damaligen =BBEr=F6ffnungsbibel=AB, dem Handbuch von \textsc{Bilguer}\Index{Bilguer} von 1843 stehen etwa 300~Seiten =FCber m=F6gliche Spielanf=E4nge nach |1. e4 e5| ungef=E4hr 40~Seiten mit dem = gesamten Rest gegen=FCber! Die Z=FCge |1. ... e6| und |1. ... c5| fallen hier = unter die Gattung der =BBunregelm=E4=DFigen Anf=E4nge=AB -- bemerkenswerterweise = werden beide(!) Z=FCge als Franz=F6sisch benannt, =BBda sie von den franz=F6sischen = Spielern besonders h=E4ufig angewendet werden=AB. [...] \label{Dokumentende} \end{document} ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As you can see a macro file winawer.sty is loaded which itself loads the following packages: \usepackage{type1cm} \usepackage{pstcol} \usepackage[dvipsone]{graphicx} \usepackage{calc} \usepackage{ifthen} \usepackage{fancyhdr} \usepackage[LY1]{fontenc} \usepackage{JensonMM} \usepackage{pifont} \usepackage{multicol} \usepackage[cam,a4center,axes]{crop} \usepackage{array} \usepackage{colortbl} Everything compiled without an error except that \label{Dokumentende} is not recognized (not written to the .aux file). (Why?) When trying to use it with the complete source file I get = ***different*** typeset output (on later pages). Also the index is now typeset with justification, which is not the case without xinitials (of course with a bunch of underfull \hboxes). I don't know why xinitials produces different output? I will update my TeX system and LaTeX2e and I will look at this test = again. Ulrich Postscriptum: It's the same with the new TeX system and actual LaTeX2e files. And now I'm experiencing a new strange behavior as my baseline grid = setup (via PSTricks) moved about 2.5in to the left! PPS: I know there're many packages loaded! I think I will try to reduce = this in my test file as much as possible. -- Art & Satz Ulrich Dirr Arnimstra=DFe 9 81369 M=FCnchen Germany/Deutschland -- fon (+49 89) 743 30 60 fax (+49 89) 743 30 61 email ud@art-satz.de -- -=3D*:-) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C022D7.6A1D6C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable incompatibility of xinitials?

Hi.

As Chris Rowley (from the latex-project.org) has = suggested to me I'll
sending my last two mails (seperately) to this list = ...


I've tried to use xinitials in one of my recent = projects (with several
packages loaded). I experienced some strange = behavior. I used a test file
TEST.TEX:

----------------------------------------------------------------= ------
%FORMAT: LaTeX
\documentclass[a4paper]{book}

\usepackage{Winawer}
\input{xinitials.sig}

\setlength{\overfullrule}{0.3cm}

\begin{document}
\setcounter{page}{30}
\setboolean{printermarks}{true}\cropmarks
\setboolean{statusinformations}{true}
\setboolean{baselinegrid}{false}
\setcounter{Diagramm}{1}
\setcounter{ADiagramm}{1}
\setcounter{gamenotationno}{1}

\chapter{Zur Geschichte}

\ExtendedInitial*[
  initial-font    =3D
\fontfamily{mtlr}\fontseries{m}\fontshape{n}\fontsize{69}{69}\se= lectfont,
  parshape-list   =3D = {0pt,0pt,0pt,0pt},
  = v-adjust        =3D 0pt,
  = h-adjust        =3D -10pt,
  = text-sep        =3D 2pt,]
{\textcolor{hks17}{N}}[\textcolor{hks17}{och}]
in der Mitte des 19.~Jahrhunderts galt die Wahl der = franz=F6sischen
\mbox{Verteidigung} haupts=E4chlich als Versuch, der = umfangreichen Theorie
der offenen Spiele nach |1. e4 e5| zu entkommen: In = der
damaligen =BBEr=F6ffnungsbibel=AB, dem Handbuch = von
\textsc{Bilguer}\Index{Bilguer} von 1843 stehen etwa = 300~Seiten =FCber
m=F6gliche Spielanf=E4nge nach |1. e4 e5| ungef=E4hr = 40~Seiten mit dem gesamten
Rest gegen=FCber! Die Z=FCge |1. ... e6| und |1. ... = c5| fallen hier unter die
Gattung der =BBunregelm=E4=DFigen Anf=E4nge=AB -- = bemerkenswerterweise werden beide(!)
Z=FCge als Franz=F6sisch benannt, =BBda sie von den = franz=F6sischen Spielern
besonders h=E4ufig angewendet werden=AB. [...]

\label{Dokumentende}
\end{document}
----------------------------------------------------------------= ------

As you can see a macro file winawer.sty is loaded = which itself loads the
following packages:

\usepackage{type1cm}
\usepackage{pstcol}
\usepackage[dvipsone]{graphicx}
\usepackage{calc}
\usepackage{ifthen}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}
\usepackage[LY1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{JensonMM}
\usepackage{pifont}
\usepackage{multicol}
\usepackage[cam,a4center,axes]{crop}
\usepackage{array}
\usepackage{colortbl}

Everything compiled without an error except that = \label{Dokumentende}
is not recognized (not written to the .aux file). = (Why?)

When trying to use it with the complete source file I = get ***different***
typeset output (on later pages). Also the index is = now typeset with
justification, which is not the case without = xinitials (of course with a
bunch of underfull \hboxes).

I don't know why xinitials produces different = output?

I will update my TeX system and LaTeX2e and I will = look at this test again.


Ulrich


Postscriptum: It's the same with the new TeX system = and actual LaTeX2e
files.
And now I'm experiencing a new strange behavior as my = baseline grid setup
(via PSTricks) moved about 2.5in to the left!

PPS: I know there're many packages loaded! I think I = will try to reduce this
in my test file as much as possible.
--
Art & Satz
Ulrich Dirr
Arnimstra=DFe 9
81369 M=FCnchen
Germany/Deutschland
--
fon (+49 89) 743 30 60
fax (+49 89) 743 30 61
email ud@art-satz.de
--
-=3D*:-)

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