Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user schoepf) for schoepf; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:45:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.56]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08843 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:45:24 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF8822.3E96D080" Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08173 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:45:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.E751688C@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:44:04 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 451975 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:42:40 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24953 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:42:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17190 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:45:17 +0100 Received: from wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta1.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.15]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29344 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:42:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.1.34] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk ident=rf) by wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 12SHUL-0002jg-00 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:45:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:32:03 +0100." <200003071032.LAA16793@na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de> Return-Path: x-vm-v5-data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil]["844" "Tue" "7" "March" "2000" "10:45:16" "+0000" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "20" "Re: bop-hook" "^Date:" nil nil "3" nil "bop-hook" nil nil nil]nil) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: bop-hook Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:45:16 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Robin Fairbairns" Sender: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" To: "Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L" Reply-To: "Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project" Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3550 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF8822.3E96D080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Code like this has been lying around here for a while. Find below my > > bophook.sty and a test file that marks the boundaries in DIN = letters. if we have to have something for 2e, then i would far rather it were a package. > I have actually done something like this completely without hooks, > just by putting a box of zero size containing fold marks and = letterhead > into the header, where the there are some negative skips that are > calculated from the page dimension parameter, so that the "letter > background" is independent of the class file or class options. > > Not exactly pretty, but can be done and works. > I suppose one could even make this a package... but you're _not_ doing it without hooks: as i said last night, the page header and footer are hooks themselves (though they don't actually call themselves that). robin ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF8822.3E96D080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: bop-hook

> > Code like this has been lying around here = for a while. Find below my
> > bophook.sty and a test file that marks the = boundaries in DIN letters.

if we have to have something for 2e, then i would far = rather it were a
package.

> I have actually done something like this = completely without hooks,
> just by putting a box of zero size containing = fold marks and letterhead
> into the header, where the there are some = negative skips that are
> calculated from the page dimension parameter, so = that the "letter
> background" is independent of the class = file or class options.
>
> Not exactly pretty, but can be done and = works.
> I suppose one could even make this a = package...

but you're _not_ doing it without hooks: as i said = last night, the
page header and footer are hooks themselves (though = they don't
actually call themselves that).

robin

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