X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1747" "Wed" "15" "December" "1999" "22:25:26" "+0100" "Frank Mittelbach" "frank.mittelbach@LATEX-PROJECT.ORG" nil "36" "Re: Is help available here?" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user schoepf) for schoepf; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:54:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (trudi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.159]) by mailserver2.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA13531 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:54:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09071 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:54:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <11.DC0E580E@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:54:51 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 446511 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:54:10 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17922 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:54:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (trudi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.159]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA25045 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:54:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de (root@dialin408.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.175.108]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21733 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:54:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from design@localhost) by istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00435; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:25:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de: design set sender to design@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de using -f References: <99121512151928@man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199912152125.WAA00435@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <99121512151928@man.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:25:26 +0100 From: Frank Mittelbach Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Is help available here? Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3466 Phillip Helbig writes: > Do the `people in the LaTeX 3 project' get paid directly for their work? > Or is it a `spare-time' effort? If the latter, the fact that they get > royalties keeps them from having to work more elsewhere (assuming that > they are not independently wealthy) presumably aids the project by > allowing them to work on it. for the record: half of the LaTeX Companion royalties (and half of the royalties of its translations in German, Japanese, and Russian) are contributed by the authors (i.e. Michel Goossens, Alexander Samarin and me) to the LaTeX3 fund a substancial amount of the royalties of the LaTeX Manual by Leslie Lamport are contributed to that fund. the other books in the ttct series, eg the LaTeX Graphics Companion and the LaTeX Web Companion do not directly contribute to the fund (this was a plain honnest mistake on Robin's end and i'm sure that there was no intention whatsoever to be deceptive) --- as an aside my work as an editor for the series also benefited the fund as Addison-Wesley contributed a substancial amount to it after me taking on this work. people on the project do not get paid for their work other than indicated by David, e.g., by getting some of their direct expenses for travelling payed. As for myself, I'm working 4 days in industry (i.e on a payed job) having dedicated the fifth day (as well as many nights and weekends) to an "expensive hobby" called supporting and developing LaTeX. The royalties for the books that directly go to me do not cover the expenses but the smooth the gap between a five and a four day contract so that i could make that decision. So in that sense the royalties for the Graphics Companion do indeed support the LaTeX3 development. frank