X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["7725" "Wed" "27" "October" "1999" "11:12:09" "-0400" "Michael J. Downes" "mjd@AMS.ORG" nil "238" "Re: Robustness (was Re: Expandable templates)" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA31463 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:12:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <9.DFCDB39D@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:12:13 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 445244 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:12:12 +0200 Received: from sun06.ams.org (sun06.ams.org [130.44.1.6]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02342 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:12:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) id <0FK900E02OW9RW@sun06.ams.org> for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:12:09 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Lines: 238 References: <199910171448.PAA27438@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk> <199910180907.KAA17744@nag.co.uk> <199910211901.VAA00546@istrati.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Message-ID: <199910271512.RAA02342@relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Comments: Resent-From: mjd@ams.org Comments: Originally-From: Michael John Downes In-Reply-To: Frank Mittelbach's message of Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:01:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:12:09 -0400 From: "Michael J. Downes" Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Robustness (was Re: Expandable templates) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3365 Frank Mittelbach writes: > questions: > > a) anybody having any idea whatsoever to deal with this problem of robustness > other than LaTeX currently does? (conceptually i mean) There are various reasons for the expansion done by LaTeX on user-supplied text, but there is (I think) only one purpose for which the expansion is really indispensable: Getting the current element number when preparing to make a running head or toc entry. I.e., when copying material for multiple use. [When the problem is posed in this way it can be seen that another way around would be to write some kind of \ref-like string instead of the actual number, assuming that the generation of labels could be suitably automated---and that string-pool/hash-table limits were not a problem.] The expansion done by \mark (for running heads) and \write (for table of contents) does not need to be applied to the title of a chapter or section, only to the section number---assuming that the user does not use commands in the titles that change their meaning during the course of the document. (If the chief reason for the current \protect mechanism is only to allow this seldom-used possibility then the cost is too high. There are other ways to reach the same ends. The switching from, e.g., \chaptername to \appendixname is the main counter-example here I think, but that can, and probably should, be taken care of by a separate mechanism. Some steps in this direction can already be seen in amsart.cls.) There is a well-known difficulty with \write, however. Non-immediate \write for writing .toc or index information does full expansion on its argument *at the time the page is shipped out* in order to get the correct page number. But no assignments can be done at this time, only expansion. Therefore the standard token-register method for keeping text unexpanded can't be applied to section titles. (For index terms the \index command reads the data with verbatim-like catcodes since the data does not need to be printed at its initial location, only written to the .idx file.) I guess what we really need is an e-TeX feature \unexpandedwrite that writes material without expansion, then a section title could be sent to the aux file by (a) pre-expanding the element number (b) applying \unexpandedwrite to everything except for the page number. [Maybe this is already in e-TeX? I don't remember.] However in the absence of an \unexpandedwrite primitive we can put the title in a macro and write the \meaning. I think this works for any material that doesn't include actual # tokens (which would get doubled), given that multiple-use text like section titles and figure captions already have the restriction that they cannot have internal catcode changes. I did a test file for this, see below. The idea of the test file is that that end-users never have to use \protect unless they put something fragile into a numbering macro like \thesection. I wrote "there is only one purpose for which the expansion is really indispensable"; \MakeUppercase might be cited as another application, but I think we really ought to look strongly into the possibility of making .vf files for uppercase fonts and ensuring that they get widely available, instead of continuing with the present edef mechanism (which is mainly done to insure that \aa gets expanded to \r{a} so that the "a" can be uppercased). Most applications really need \MakeTextUppercase, to skip over math and \ref and stuff like that, where the difficulties of the edef solution become more apparent. Michael Downes ======================================================================== \documentclass{book} \title{Expansion tests} \author{Michael Downes} \makeatletter \catcode`\_=10 \catcode`\ =9 \catcode\endlinechar=9 % First let's fix up the uses of \mark, that is easier than the toc stuff. \newtoks\@currentmark \def\markboth#1#2{% \global\@currentmark{{#1}{#2}} \xdef\@themark{\the\@currentmark}% For compatibility \mark{\the\@currentmark} \if@nobreak\ifvmode\nobreak\fi\fi } \def\@markright#1#2#3{ \global\@currentmark{{#1}{#3}} \xdef\@themark{\the\@currentmark} } \def\markright#1{ \expandafter\@markright\@themark{#1} \mark{\the\@currentmark} \if@nobreak\ifvmode\nobreak\fi\fi } % Need a better solution for \MakeUppercase. \let\MakeUppercase=\relax % It would be better if \addcontentsline had a separate argument for the % number. Lacking that, we have to scan "by hand" for \numberline. % % Typical usage: % % \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter} % {\numberline{chapnum}Title of this here chapter} % \def\addcontentsline#1#2#3{ \begingroup \def\@tempa##1\numberline##2##3\numberline##4\@nil{ \gdef\element@number{##2} \def\@tempb####1{\WriteTocEntry{#1}{#2}{####1}{##2}{##3}} } \@tempa#3\numberline{}{}\numberline\@nil \ifx\@empty\element@number \WriteTocEntry{#1}{#2}{}{}{#3} \else \expandafter\@tempb\csname#2name\endcsname \fi \endgroup } % Here is a better alternative for \addcontentsline: % % \WriteTocEntry{toc}{chapter}{\chaptername}{\thechapter}{Title of chapter ...} % \def\WriteTocEntry#1#2#3#4#5{ \begingroup \protected@xdef\element@number{#4} \endgroup \toks@\expandafter{#3} \@temptokena{#5} \toks\tw@\expandafter{\element@number} \edef\reserved@a{ \noexpand\addtocontentswithpage{#1}{ \noexpand\tocentry{#2} {\the\toks@}{\the\toks\tw@}{\the\@temptokena} } } \reserved@a } \def\fwrite{\@writefile} \long\def\addtocontents#1#2{ \def\reserved@a{#2} \edef\reserved@b{ \write\@auxout{ \string\fwrite{#1}{ \expandafter\strip@prefix\meaning\reserved@a } } } \reserved@b } % The \addtocontentswithpage function is similar to \addtocontents but % provides more separation between the parts that need different % expansion. % \long\def\addtocontentswithpage#1#2{ \def\reserved@a{#2} \edef\reserved@b{ \write\@auxout{ \string\fwrite{#1}{ \expandafter\strip@prefix\meaning\reserved@a {\noexpand\thepage} } } } \reserved@b } % For toc entries made with \WriteTocEntry we need something that % handles more arguments than \contentsline: % \def\tocentry#1#2#3#4#5{ \csname l@#1\endcsname{\numberline{#2\enspace #3}#4}{#5} } %% % Simplified, for testing: %% % %% \renewcommand{\numberline}[1]{\begingroup \bfseries#1.\endgroup\quad } %% %% \renewcommand*\l@chapter[2]{% %% \par %% \addpenalty{-\@highpenalty}% %% \addvspace{6pt plus1pt}% %% \begingroup \parfillskip0pt %% \noindent#1\nobreak\hfil \nobreak\hb@xt@\@pnumwidth{\hss #2}\par %% \endgroup %% \penalty\@highpenalty %% } \newcommand{\fragilecommand}{\relax\ifmmode Math\else Text\fi ?} \makeatother \catcode`\_=8 \catcode\endlinechar=5 \catcode`\ =10 \begin{document} \frontmatter \tableofcontents \chapter*{Preface \begin{math}\fragilecommand\end{math}} Some prefatory text. % Trying to send a fragile command to the toc without \protect: \addtocontents{toc}{\enlargethispage*{10pt}} \mainmatter \chapter{Title of a Chapter \begin{math}\fragilecommand\end{math}} Some text. \chapter{And Another Chapter \begin{math}\fragilecommand\end{math} Here} \markboth{Other Chapter \begin{math}\fragilecommand\end{math}} {Other Chapter \begin{math}\fragilecommand\end{math}} Some text. \begin{figure} \framebox[\columnwidth]{\rule{0pt}{5\baselineskip}} \caption{Here is a figure caption containing some fragile stuff: \begin{math}\fragilecommand\end{math}.} \end{figure} \backmatter \begin{thebibliography}{B} \bibitem{A} Joe Author, \textit{Some title}. \bibitem{B} Terry Berry, \textit{Another different title}. \end{thebibliography} \end{document}