X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2041" "Mon" "6" "September" "1999" "12:53:34" "-0400" "William F. Hammond" "hammond@CSC.ALBANY.EDU" nil "50" "Re: Standard journal macros" "^Date:" nil nil "9" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31157; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:54:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <13.AF74CC22@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:54:17 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 444294 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:53:43 +0200 Received: from sarah.albany.edu (sarah.albany.edu [169.226.1.103]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01119 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:53:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from hilbert.math.albany.edu (hilbert.math.albany.edu [169.226.23.52]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02090 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hammond@localhost) by hilbert.math.albany.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02503 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <199909061653.MAA02503@hilbert.math.albany.edu> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:53:34 -0400 From: "William F. Hammond" Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Standard journal macros Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3311 Sebastian Rahtz writes: > William F. Hammond writes: > > It is possible to fool ourselves into thinking that we are writing > > LaTeX when we are really writing SGML. > > > now you are talking.... (Haven't I been talking this way for a year now?) > it is an interesting issue of whether a long-established DTD like the > TEI has enough markup to describe a 100-author CERN physics paper. I'd > be curious to see the results. In this TEI would be a transformation target, of course. > > Do either provide enough hooks for math? > > TEI and Docbook are both extensible, so on just plugs in MathML and > pray for namespace support We will need to control our own public namespace for use in areas that lack temperature control, and we will want it to feel like the existing LaTeX namespace even though it may contain some new names and may lack some old names (unless we mount Herculean efforts to accommodate all old names). Customized inhouse languages will keep us all happy as long as we are able to translate to the public thing. > (somehow, the mathml people thought it was > amusing to have "" in their element set) The constituency of math journal authors will only support rich enough markup for bulletproof formatting to MathML as *an option*. So MathML is not the right thing to merge with either DocBook or TEI (not that I have looked very closely at either). The markup should be flexible enough to accommodate lazy authors and rich enough to support those who care about down-translation with MathML support. William F. Hammond Dept. of Mathematics & Statistics 518-442-4625 The University at Albany hammond@math.albany.edu Albany, NY 12222 (U.S.A.) http://math.albany.edu:8000/~hammond/ Dept. FAX: 518-442-4731 Never trust an SGML/XML vendor whose web page is not valid HTML. And always support affirmative action on behalf of the finite places.