X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2561" "Tue" "31" "August" "1999" "16:14:10" "+0100" "Phillip Helbig" "helbig@MAN.AC.UK" nil "57" "Re: Standard journal macros" "^Date:" nil nil "8" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (mail.listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.5]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26278; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:26:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.5) by mail.listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.04A30E2C@mail.listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:26:18 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 444127 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:25:57 +0200 Received: from mailhost.rug.nl (mailhost.rug.nl [129.125.4.6]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07556 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:25:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from gladia (actually host gladia.astro.rug.nl) by mailhost.rug.nl with local-SMTP (MMTA); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:25:58 +0200 X-VMS-To: SMTP%"LATEX-L@urz.uni-heidelberg.de" X-VMS-Cc: KNAPPEN@ALPHA.NTP.SPRINGER.DE,HELBIG Message-ID: <99083116141070@man.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:14:10 +0100 From: Phillip Helbig Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Standard journal macros Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3296 Hi J"org, > Phillip Helbig schrieb: > > > What are the prospects for coming up with some standard journal macros, > > including a BibTeX-style front matter handler, embracing the physical > > and social sciences and also getting all publishers and editors to > > encourage their use as well as distribute proper BibTeX files. > > We (i. e. Jens Kloecker, Michael Piotrowski, Frank Holzwarth and JKn) > want to develop a standard _scientific article_ class in a BOF session > at EuroTeX99 to be hold in Heidelberg from September 20--24. > J"org Knappen > Electronic Technologies > Springer-Verlag Heidelberg Nice to see someone from Springer involved (how long have you been there?) (and using VMS at that:). It is becoming obvious even in the UK now that A&A has really overtaken MNRAS in terms of `sensible modernity' in the publishing arena; hopefully this trend will continue at Springer and other journals will follow suit in a very compatible manner. > We want to emphasize the idea of a document class as a markup > language. The rendering of the article will of course follow > different styles for each publisher (and even vary from journal > to journal with the same publisher). In fact, front matter and > bibliography are our two main targets in the design of this class. > We hope to come up with a new class usable with different publishers. This is looking really concrete! Great! What are your thoughts on using straight BibTeX 1.0? How strictly will the front-matter stuff adhere to a BibTeX-like scheme? (Didn't David Carlisle once do some stuff in this area)? It seems it would be a good idea to air some more detailed sketches about what you have in mind, primarily in terms of goals but also in terms of implementation. -- Phillip Helbig Email ......... p.helbig@jb.man.ac.uk Nuffield Radio Astronomy Laboratories Tel. ... +44 1477 571 321 (ext. 2635) Jodrell Bank Fax ................ +44 1477 571 618 Macclesfield Telex ................ 36149 JODREL G UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL Web ... http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/ ************************ currently working at ******************************* Kapteyn Instituut Email (above preferred) helbig@astro.rug.nl Rijksuniversiteit Groningen Tel. ...................... +31 50 363 4067 Postbus 800 Fax ....................... +31 50 363 6100 NL-9700 AV Groningen The Netherlands Web ... http://gladia.astro.rug.nl/~helbig/