X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1471" "Fri" "18" "December" "1998" "20:13:31" "+0100" "Hans Aberg" "haberg@MATEMATIK.SU.SE" nil "27" "Re: pointless discussions" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22963; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:13:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <2.4ACA90AE@listserv.gmd.de>; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:13:08 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 414000 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:13:04 +0100 Received: from mail0.nada.kth.se (mail0.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.70]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29887 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:13:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from [130.237.37.136] (sl27.modempool.kth.se [130.237.37.47]) by mail0.nada.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA22354 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:13:00 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: su95-hab@mail.nada.kth.se References: <199812181230.MAA23708@nag.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981218131742.00adb800@tiac.net> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:13:31 +0100 From: Hans Aberg Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: pointless discussions Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3205 At 13:21 -0500 1998/12/18, Y&Y, Inc. wrote: >>As far as I know, it was not the problem of the MacOS version of Acrobat, >>which seemed to work just fine, but the incompatibility between the >>QuickDraw and PS systems. > >This is more a statement of some user or some application not knowing >what they are doing. The general assumption being that you need to know >nothing about Acrobat before using it. It requires some knowledge, >just as with PostScript. And with sufficient knowledge you can produce >fairly robust output in either formats. When I say it has nothing with Acrobat to do, it is because Acrobat never was involved. The files produced by a conversion program were corrupted simply. This does not happen because there is anything inherently wrong with the file formats, but because the companies developing this (in this case Apple and Acrobat) do not have any strong self-interest to make it not happen: Often the opposite is true, one has the local formats and programs, and one tries to help users into that environment, but if other incompatibilities happen that is often an advantage to the company. I mean this is just a fact to the whole computer industry, so I do not understand people here try to claim anything otherwise. Hans Aberg * Email: Hans Aberg * Home Page: * AMS member listing: