X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["846" "Mon" "14" "December" "1998" "10:03:19" "+0000" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "21" "Re: portable LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil "portable LaTeX" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10756; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:02:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <8.171FB8A3@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:02:31 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 412720 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:02:16 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12713 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:02:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA19176; hop 0; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:53:35 GMT Received: from srahtz (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:01:47 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.3.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 20.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811261227.NAA14424@na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de> <199811261313.NAA28971@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> <199812121438.PAA23249@baghira.npc.de> Message-ID: <13940.57959.232102.50451@srahtz> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199812121438.PAA23249@baghira.npc.de> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:03:19 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: portable LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3089 Joachim Schrod writes: > MS Word is a fu**ing bad, brain-dead program. Compared to other how come so many people continue to use it? like they eat hamburgers and drink coca-cola, I suppose. > loosing), etc. Being forced to use MS Word always means to raise > project prices. oh, *thats* why its used.... > infrastructure base. No, IMNSHO XML is not usable for authors, and I > don't see this changing in the near or mid-term future. It's too > inconvenient, return on personal investment is too low, and there are > no tools in sight that will change this. a few million people use LaTeX, which is inconvenient, has a vile syntax, no interface, effectively no commercial tool support, etc. i concur with your analysis. but what now? waste more time on the varied evils of Word and LaTeX? or try to get the XML tools written? sebastian