X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["667" "Fri" "11" "December" "1998" "10:30:31" "+0000" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "16" "Re: Public vote!" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10341; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:23:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.816B7E2F@listserv.gmd.de>; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:23:21 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 412706 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:23:17 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08008 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:23:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA03473; hop 0; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:14:23 GMT Received: from srahtz (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:22:31 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.3.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 20.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <98121110144820@man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <13936.62535.257412.127624@srahtz> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <98121110144820@man.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:30:31 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Public vote! Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3069 Phillip Helbig writes: > (author-prepared manuscripts for conference proceedings, journals, > making posters, overheads etc), what is needed which is not in the > `core' is psfrag, natbib, custom-bib. Also, authors often need to hmm. as discussed, "psfrag" is a disaster for almost everything except immediate typesetting. i accept that you need something like it, but i, _per se, is not a good thing to promote. > `\usepackage{times}'. Whether or not that has the desired effect > depends on how the fonts are set up etc. if \usepackage{times} has any effect other than the one I get when I run it, i am very annoyed. it should NOT vary at all. Sebastian