X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1661" "Sun" "6" "December" "1998" "12:16:02" "+0100" "Hans Aberg" "haberg@MATEMATIK.SU.SE" nil "35" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil "What is \"base\" LaTeX" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01624; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 12:16:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <14.B4DC0BB7@listserv.gmd.de>; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 12:16:24 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411304 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 12:15:57 +0100 Received: from mail0.nada.kth.se (mail0.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.70]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21132 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 12:15:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from [130.237.37.75] (sl55.modempool.kth.se [130.237.37.75]) by mail0.nada.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA15237 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 12:15:53 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: su95-hab@mail.nada.kth.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 12:16:02 +0100 From: Hans Aberg Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3045 At 08:48 -0500 1998/12/05, Y&Y Inc. wrote: >... it is a fantasy world where >more than a handful of people use *ML at all, and a fantasy world where this >does something suitable for WWW viewing and simpler types of printing >just IMHO, of course. I used *ML as a collective term for those various ML's: Then a lot already use HTML, and this will be replaced XML if now Netscape and Microsoft and those will implement it on their WWW-browsers. The question is though if they are only markups how they should be on the one hand be able to become authoring languages -- writing math in WYSIWYG or *ML is hopeless, because it is difficult to make the code consistent: This is where this wish for macros comes in, but macros are too naive for sophisticated authoring outputs. So one still needs some kind of language that the author can use. And one the other hand, the question is how one should be able to indicate details about the graphical output: The idea must be that the author indicates as exactly as possible the information intended in every part of the manuscript. So sometimes it may be very detailed, and other times less detailed. >By the way, Chuck Bigelow once ran a contest for the stupidest remark on >comp.fonts. There was no shortage of competitors. Strangely the awardees >where not at all pleased... Such negativism is probably a good way to spread frustations that get in the way of more constructive developments. Hans Aberg * Email: Hans Aberg * Home Page: * AMS member listing: