X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1866" "Wed" "2" "December" "1998" "12:16:01" "+0100" "Hans Aberg" "haberg@MATEMATIK.SU.SE" nil "38" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (root@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.158]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03704; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:18:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14661; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:17:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <4.32611289@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:17:30 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 412399 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:16:03 +0100 Received: from mail0.nada.kth.se (mail0.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.70]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18098 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:16:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from [130.237.37.61] (sl08.modempool.kth.se [130.237.37.28]) by mail0.nada.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA14131 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:15:51 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: su95-hab@mail.nada.kth.se References: <199812012137.QAA25671@fenris.math.albany.edu> <13923.46894.353948.654511@srahtz> <199812012137.QAA25671@fenris.math.albany.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <13925.3874.335434.461448@srahtz> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:16:01 +0100 From: Hans Aberg Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3011 At 09:57 +0000 1998/12/02, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >Mark Steinberger writes: > > The AMS has done one important thing that seems counter to the > > interests of its publishing arm: bringing the postscript type 1 CM and > > AMS fonts into the public domain. >I don't think they are in the public domain, if I may quibble :-} I recall they are: BlueSky (who sells the MacOS TeX program Textures) originally developed these commercially, as AMS felt they did could not afford that. Later these were released for free use by a joint agreement between BlueSky and AMS. >I agree, all the way, in so far as *mathematics* is concerned. I don't >know what you are going to do, as at present you seem to be stuck in >the corner with wet paint all around you. MathML offers you a >*possible* way out, albeit pretty unattractive from where you are >sitting, but can you really afford to sit tight? Yes, possibly you can >for a while. But if the usage of TeX shrinks to the maths community, >you'll lose some of the commercial systems (Y&Y cant make a living from just >mathematicians, can it?), a lot of the developer community and you'll >lose things like CTAN; do you have the resources to maintain this just >from within maths? I think the use of TeX is expanding: It is not only the standard in math, but also pretty much at the XXX archive, and in many quarters of computer science. The *ML movements are currently pretty orthogonal to what TeX can offer: The *ML offer fast, simple typesetting, suitable for WWW and simpler types of printing. Eventually one would expect a movement combining that with the TeX ability to do complex math typesetting. Hans Aberg * Email: Hans Aberg * Home Page: * AMS member listing: