X-VM-Summary-Format: "%n %*%a %-17.17F %-3.3m %2d %4l/%-5c %I\"%s\"\n" X-VM-Labels: nil X-VM-VHeader: ("Date:" "Resent-Date:" "From:" "Sender:" "Resent-From" "Originally-From:" "Originally-To:" "To:" "Apparently-To:" "Cc:" "Subject:" "Cron:") nil X-VM-Last-Modified: (13942 17044 967717) X-VM-IMAP-Retrieved: nil X-VM-POP-Retrieved: nil X-VM-Bookmark: 125 X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1127" "Tue" "1" "December" "1998" "09:07:40" "+0000" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "27" "Re: portable LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14521; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:00:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.74058316@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:56:19 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411272 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:21:46 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00131 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:21:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA02885; hop 0; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:13:19 GMT Received: from srahtz (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:20:11 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.3.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 20.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811301821.NAA21383@hilbert.math.albany.edu> Message-ID: <13923.45532.95852.146986@srahtz> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199811301821.NAA21383@hilbert.math.albany.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:07:40 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: portable LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2999 William F. Hammond writes: > So may I conclude that Sebastian now realizes that my comment this past > Friday was "right"? :-) you dont catch me out like that. > : and no HTML browser enforces validation, does it? > > That's also a web rule. Authors and servers should behave according > to strict rules. Clients should be very tolerant. (And indeed clients > need to be very tolerant.) XML clients will be intolerant. they must be, by the "rules of XML". invalid XML documents will be _rejected_ by eg Netscape 5 > In fact, the prevalence of invalid html gives one pause in > contemplating the future of roll-your-own xml, where documents that > are not valid will splatter across one's screen. no. definitely not. all agree that unless the XML is well-formed, it will not make it onto your screen > : by which we see why LaTeX is unpopular in production workflows. that > : translates to "10% failure" > > Hmmm... I believe that the head editor of a math journal that I know > would disagree with this last statement about LaTeX. I think that he mathematicians are, we know, a special case sebastian