X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1231" "Mon" "30" "November" "1998" "20:02:42" "+0100" "Chris Rowley" "C.A.Rowley@OPEN.AC.UK" nil "34" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA04764; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:03:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.E787C20A@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:03:04 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 412135 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:02:56 +0100 Received: from ixgate01.dfnrelay.d400.de (ixgate01.dfnrelay.d400.de [193.174.248.1]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18810 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:02:53 +0100 (MET) X400-Received: by mta d400relay in /PRMD=dfnrelay/ADMD=d400/C=de/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:02:48 +0100 X400-Received: by mta venus in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:02:35 +0100 X400-Received: by mta fell.open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:01:55 +0100 X400-Received: by mta UK.AC.MHS-RELAY.SUN in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:02:42 +0100 X400-Originator: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<13922.59823.854744.337810@fell.] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Re: What is (... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed References: , <365A9F55.88C46733@na.uni-tuebingen.de>, <13913.60537.514744.407614@srahtz>, <13916.96.643934.277862@srahtz>, <13917.4472.820603.957391@srahtz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13922.59823.854744.337810@fell.open.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <19981127205441.A5643@maths.tcd.ie> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:02:42 +0100 From: Chris Rowley Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2998 Timothy Murphy wrote -- > I am just looking at a very well printed old book (Hardy & Wright, 1954), That would be the Monotype 5-line as used by CUP I think? This is what Knuth would have emulated had he been working 5000 miles further east. > For one thing, they do things which would be difficult (for me) in LaTeX, > eg Theorem 6: with a displayed formula on the same line. A known deficiency (but this is not the right list:-). I have a much more recent, but pre-computers, CUP-printed book that is an amazing example of very tight math typography despite a large amount of in-line math (which usually messes up any attempt at godd typography): totally, mind-blowingly different from what we are used to now! > It should be said that Hardy & Wright is an exception for its period. > Most of the research maths books of that vintage > were appallingly badly "printed" (usually typed). As early as that??: it is something I associate with the 60s: bring back the golf-ball! > TeX has been responsible for > an immense increase in the average printing quality of maths books. Absolutely. But it would be really serious fun (for everyone but sebastian:-) to try and emulate using TeX what CUP could do back then. chris