X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["400" "Mon" "30" "November" "1998" "19:19:15" "+0100" "Chris Rowley" "C.A.Rowley@OPEN.AC.UK" nil "15" "Re: portable LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06850; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:23:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.66CA3251@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:23:41 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 412058 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:23:32 +0100 Received: from ixgate02.dfnrelay.d400.de (ixgate02.dfnrelay.d400.de [193.174.248.2]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15720 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:23:28 +0100 (MET) X400-Received: by mta d400relay in /PRMD=dfnrelay/ADMD=d400/C=de/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:19:29 +0100 X400-Received: by mta venus in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:19:08 +0100 X400-Received: by mta fell.open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:18:30 +0100 X400-Received: by mta open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:18:29 +0100 X400-Received: by mta UK.AC.MHS-RELAY.SUN in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:19:15 +0100 X400-Originator: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<13922.57543.853960.826423@fell.] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Re: portable ... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed References: <199811261227.NAA14424@na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13922.57543.853960.826423@fell.open.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199811261313.NAA28971@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:19:15 +0100 From: Chris Rowley Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: portable LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2993 Sebastian Rahtz wrote -- > too right. i think the situation you describe is shocking, and I am > ashamed of my profession. seriously. In this context, it would be interesting to know whether Elsevier still budgets about 5-times as much for typestting maths as for non-technical copy? Here it is diffiuclt to tell whether we still do, since we went electronic and in-house simultaneously. chris