X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1669" "Mon" "30" "November" "1998" "09:20:10" "+0000" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "39" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22187; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:39:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.3819A9BC@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:39:49 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411326 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:39:45 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18189 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:35:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA29338; hop 0; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:27:22 GMT Received: from srahtz (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:35:03 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.3.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 20.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811262254.IAA20689@bigted.maths.uq.edu.au> <13918.39374.95531.209114@srahtz> <13919.57916.952197.754236@fell.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: <13922.25418.636862.331937@srahtz> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <13919.57916.952197.754236@fell.open.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:20:10 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2988 Chris Rowley writes: > > its amazing how the tens of millions of Web users out there happily > > use this inferior technology, isn't it. > > Indeed, it is so amazing that I simply do not believe it. The WEB has one has to start asking if you and I inhabit the same world! yes, of course Web heads all want better and better and better wotsits, but the growth of Web usage is *surely* undeniable evidence that it satifies some basic needs? what else is happiness? > Would you be happy to have to do all your Java course on-line, without > a decent printer available? why do yo think i have a printer available as I do my course? > > of course, many are not 20th century mathematicians... > > And I am sure that the world is a better place for that:-)? > > Puts on statistical hat: I suspect that the proportion of this dying > race that uses the web is very high compared with the whole of the > great unwashed. i was talking abolute numbers, not proportions. hence the word "many". > lot of basic stuff in common. Thus in the context of this list, there > is no need to make a large distinction but just to extend our idea of > what a document is. sure, no large distinction. but Lucida New Math vs CMR is a detail > Even more interesting: I think that PDF is an excellnet medium for > viewing on screen, and printing if needed, a 10pt CM math document. > > And we happy breed of people, the 20C pure mathematicians, now do this > a lot thanks to the efforts of our professional bodies (and maybe some > publishers too;-). am curious to hear what your professional bodies have done to help you get your 10pt CM PDF documents up. sebastian