X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["775" "Fri" "27" "November" "1998" "16:38:56" "-0500" "Y&Y, Inc." "support@YANDY.COM" nil "19" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA32280; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:43:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.D9A76111@listserv.gmd.de>; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:43:43 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 412158 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:39:19 +0100 Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23053 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:39:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail-out-4.tiac.net (mail-out-4.tiac.net [199.0.65.16]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07322 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:39:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from support@YandY.com) Received: from DENALI (p116.tc8.metro.MA.tiac.com [209.61.76.245]) by mail-out-4.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA26460; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:39:14 GMT (envelope-from support@YandY.com) X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 References: <4.1.19981127083748.00a473d0@pop.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <4.1.19981127163551.034eb8c0@pop.tiac.net> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <19981127212632.D5643@maths.tcd.ie> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:38:56 -0500 From: "Y&Y, Inc." Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2972 At 04:26 PM 98/11/27 , Timothy Murphy wrote: >I find that a little hard to follow. >The only PDF documents I've seen with useful hypertext >are pdflatex ones presumably generated using hyperref. Or, in material predating hyperref, by using \special{...} directly, as in http://www.YandY.com/download/pdf_from.pdf This is a situation where DVI viewer supported hyper-text links were automatically translated to pdfmark for Distiller. >Eg I was just looking at an enormous on-line Java manual by Eckel, >which is said to be very good, and found the complete lack of links >between table-of-contents (and index) and contents >very frustrating. How was it prepared? Using TeX? You can't really blame PDF for the author's lack of sophistication in using the tool properly.