X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1051" "Thu" "26" "November" "1998" "09:13:22" "-0500" "Y&Y, Inc." "support@YANDY.COM" nil "24" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02413; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:14:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <6.E0A8E73E@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:14:08 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411540 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:14:03 +0100 Received: from mail-out-0.tiac.net (mail-out-0.tiac.net [199.0.65.247]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11228 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:13:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail-out-4.tiac.net (mail-out-4.tiac.net [199.0.65.16]) by mail-out-0.tiac.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17275 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:13:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from support@YandY.com) Received: from DENALI (p39.tc2.metro.MA.tiac.com [209.61.75.168]) by mail-out-4.tiac.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA14159 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:13:40 GMT (envelope-from support@YandY.com) X-Sender: yandy@pop.tiac.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 References: <19981125165741.D8854@maths.tcd.ie> <13914.43859.281032.18501@srahtz> <365A9F55.88C46733@na.uni-tuebingen.de> <199811142302.AAA24385@na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de> <13913.60537.514744.407614@srahtz> <13916.96.643934.277862@srahtz> <19981125165741.D8854@maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <4.1.19981126090908.03437f10@pop.tiac.net> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <13917.4472.820603.957391@srahtz> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:13:22 -0500 From: "Y&Y, Inc." Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2936 At 03:29 AM 98/11/26 , you wrote: >Timothy Murphy writes: > > I just looked at a random selection of 15 new books > > on the way to our research library, > > and as far as I could see they were all written in TeX/LaTeX. >perhaps you'd care to tell us how you can tell, unless they explicitly >say so, out of interest? it is, perhaps, an indictment of TeX is it >always shows its traces... I'd like to think the books I have typeset >using TeX (not mathematical, of course) could *not* be traced back. I went around the MIT Coop the other day and in certain fields like Computer Science many books are indeed obviously done using LaTeX. How can I tell? (1) Computer Modern fonts, (2) `Idiosyncratic' (:-) layout of default LaTeX styles (I won't say classes because I doubt whether too many of these people know there even is a LaTeX 2e). Which is indeed sad, since one can do so much more with (La)TeX. The fact that the authors do the typesetting limits the design seriously (while saving the publisher a pile of money). Regards, Berthold Horn