X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1643" "Thu" "26" "November" "1998" "09:07:45" "+0000" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "39" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30970; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:44:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <8.260E99B0@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:44:03 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411301 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:43:59 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15897 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:43:57 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA06975; hop 0; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:35:34 GMT Received: from srahtz (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:43:05 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.3.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 20.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199811142302.AAA24385@na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de> <365A9F55.88C46733@na.uni-tuebingen.de> <13916.19124.230604.70394@fell.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: <13917.6753.476689.415054@srahtz> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <13916.19124.230604.70394@fell.open.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:07:45 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2932 Chris Rowley writes: > > No. You can't review articles. > > What???? We can, and do, all the time. You may really mean we cannot > (without some cost) administer this process. > > > You can't provide easy searching and access > > to all articles in an area. > > This is certainly something that should be provided a t a reasonable > cost by the correct type of organisation. it baffles me why academic mathematicians feel able to turn into economists at the drop of a \hat. you concede that the things you want done cost money, but then you blame publishers for providing the service and charging you. sadly, we dont live in a socialist world, so probably not worth shedding crocodile tears for an ideal world that we have *did* exist > close connections with publishing, are clearly part of the mathematical > community and employi at senior levels academic mathematicians rather > than "publishers". i am sure the senior publishers at places like this are happy to have their academic backgrounds dismissed so lightly > I do know that maths is very different in the requirements it makes of > intra-document search engines. This is one, of many, reasons why the in what are you different from chemists or physicists, to name but two obvious examples? > as is, has delivered what is needed in this area). And again, here, > it seems unlikely that, even given the right languages/tools, > publishers will be able to provide useful added-value in this area > without using specialised mathematicians to encode documents. > we have those "specialised mathematicians", thanks, they are called "authors" :-} sebastian