X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["823" "Wed" "25" "November" "1998" "19:51:45" "+0100" "Chris Rowley" "C.A.Rowley@OPEN.AC.UK" nil "22" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22226; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:52:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <9.90537011@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:52:15 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411351 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:52:10 +0100 Received: from ixgate02.dfnrelay.d400.de (ixgate02.dfnrelay.d400.de [193.174.248.2]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11177 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:52:08 +0100 (MET) X400-Received: by mta d400relay in /PRMD=dfnrelay/ADMD=d400/C=de/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:51:52 +0100 X400-Received: by mta venus in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:51:23 +0100 X400-Received: by mta fell.open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:50:50 +0100 X400-Received: by mta open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:50:49 +0100 X400-Received: by mta UK.AC.MHS-RELAY.SUN in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:51:45 +0100 X400-Originator: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<13916.20473.80588.911696@fell.o] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Re: What is (... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed References: <13914.54306.568153.29148@srahtz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13916.20473.80588.911696@fell.open.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:51:45 +0100 From: Chris Rowley Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2927 Robin Fairbairns wrote -- > > but even if xml _does_ take over, there are going to be people wanting > advice on how to use xml tools to produce an acceptable visual > result. these things _won't_ be well-enough documented (at least, the > versions the researchers can afford), any more than latex is now. I shall refrain from commenting on the documentation issue:-). But I agree that, whatever the mark-up language and whether we do ever develop a usable language to specify complex formatting and support high-quality typography, the authors' questions are likely to remain very similar. But I would like to be able to improve what is available, in bothe lanaguages and, more usefully, improved software that fully supports them, so that the answer does not so often have to be, "well, don't do that then". chris